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The TOOL Bassists Thread

Who prevails?

  • Paul D'Amour (Opiate, Undertow)

    Votes: 10 18.5%

  • Justin Chancellor (Ænima, Lateralus)

    Votes: 38 70.4%

  • Las Zanahorias

    Votes: 6 11.1%
  • Total voters
    54
  • Poll closed .
#21
Matt Till said:
Not to derail this thread but could somone please explain to me the appeal of Lateralus? I know it's hard to explain to someone why you like music, more than likely the answer is "I just do." But I listened to the first 5 tracks and I just shut it off, it felt like track one was on repeat five times.

Is there something I'm missing? I'm not trying to be a jerk... they are like the biggest rock band going and everyone seems to like them... I don't mind Aenima, and the first two are good solid rock albums... but In my opinion Lateralus was pretty awful. I think the main reason I find them repetitious is due to Adam Jones' guitar playing and Maynard's vocals. They seem to have sounded the same since they got "artsy"
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No hard feeling Till, lets forget those last posts.

ANYWAYS, "The Grudge" is one of my favorite songs ever recorded. It starts out soooo explosive and the bass part is just perfect. The dynamics of the song are impecable. At the end, you just want to play it with your amp cranked up to 10 and just wail the hell out of your bass. After that, you hear an erie guitar solo that gets you in an erie mood. The next song, "The Patient" (which I used to skip when listening to the CD,) is also very dynamic. I can't really describe what I like about it, it's just a good song. It starts off with a mellow bass part, then finally kicks out. It moves into a bridge which is the best 2 note riff i've ever heard in my life. Linking after that is one of the scariest transitions i've heard in a while... it's reportedly a guy being strangled (NOT CONFIRMED.) Then you hear some mad bass chords in Schism. The song just tells an amazing story about a loss of communication and a train wreck of a relationship because of it. The bridge keeps building and building and building until the first crash of Danny Carey's cymbals. The outro features Danny Carey going crazy. "Parabol" ain't nothing special, it just leads into "Parabola" which is a pretty good song. Listening to the bass solo just makes you feel like your spinning around. The toms of "Tick and Leeches" is a great beginning to the last half of the CD. And then "Lateralus." The spiral. This song has fibonacci encoded all in it.

Black (1)
then (1)
white are (2)
all I see (3)
in my infancy (5)
red and yellow than came to me (8)
reaching out to me (5)
lets me see. (3)

The "bass solo" gives me goosebumps (am I a nerd now?) and Maynard relentlessly speaks about the spiral. I've heard when "Reflection" is played live, the lights and music make you have no worries and feel amazing (even without smoking the peace pipe.) "Triad"... I don't get that song either. And "Faaip De Oiad," don't listen to this song late at night. This is supposedly a real broadcast from a guy who escaped Area 51 after he saw aliens and he was almost killed. It's filled with the most erie and scary lines, it just makes you think. And the exit of "Faaip De Oiad" makes you wonder what happened.

Yes I started rambling and stuff towards the end of that, and I couldn't find the words I wanted, but I hope you get the point. The album is about finding your true self and questioning what is real. You should check out the Holy Gift.

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#23
I like listening to Lateralus in the order it was "meant" to be played in... which is tracks: 6,7,5,8,4,9,13,1,12,2,11,3,10. Each song flows perfectly into the next, and it seems to be more consistent as an overall album. Parabol, into Parabola, is a nice opener, going into several songs and culminating with Lateralus right before the midpoint (Faaip de Oiad, which is too weird to listen to). Right away, we get The Grudge and Triad, followed by Eon Blue and three mellow, excellent ending songs (Reflection, The Patient, and Disposition). Listening to it this way makes more sense as a whole album.

As for the bassists, I love Paul D'Amour's tone and enjoy his playing, but in the end Justin's playing is much more intricate and I really like his use of effects and harmonics.
 
#25
jenderfazz said:
I like listening to Lateralus in the order it was "meant" to be played in... which is tracks: 6,7,5,8,4,9,13,1,12,2,11,3,10. Each song flows perfectly into the next, and it seems to be more consistent as an overall album. Parabol, into Parabola, is a nice opener, going into several songs and culminating with Lateralus right before the midpoint (Faaip de Oiad, which is too weird to listen to). Right away, we get The Grudge and Triad, followed by Eon Blue and three mellow, excellent ending songs (Reflection, The Patient, and Disposition). Listening to it this way makes more sense as a whole album.
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Yea, it will blow u away. I like the transition between Faaip de Oiad and the grudge the best, its so amazing, givs ya goose bumps.
 
#28
Petary791 said:
I would agree with that. Do you use overlapping software or no? When I was listening to the Holy Gift earlier, I put on 1 second overlapping.
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Yea, i used a multimedia program called Final Cut Pro, seemed to work well. Some songs i had to overlap more than others to get a better flow. also i used AIFF files rather than MP3's, cause MP3's suck for that sort of stuff.
 
#29
page said:
Yes it does! WIlson Phillips is AnARCXXXXHY!!!!!!
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The one chick sold out though when she got her stomach stapled. :mad: It use to be about the music/drugs/groupies

Yeah, I suppose my views on Tool are a bit clouded right now. It's all I ever hear about from my friends. It's like "Oh my god, I was just on the Tool website... did you hear that Manyard just took as ****! Yeah! You can read all about it on his blog, and there is a thread about it on the forums. LOLOLOLOLOLOL1111oneoneexplosioncrapdiediediediedie!!!!1111one"

My friends actually say that too, the end part actually requires them to speak through a delay pedal and unhinge there jaw.

Plus, ever since my drummer/guitarist friend got into Tool, it's ruined his playing. He just wants to play very bland guitar now.

So maybe a few years down the road I'll like Tool a little more, but the over exposure level right now is a bit high.
 
#31
spectorbass83 said:
Also, he uses a pick very well.
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+100

I hated picks, then I listened to Tool.

Anyone know what kind of pedals JC uses? I've heard a Whammy... but I can't find any signs of a Whammy. I heard it's in the beginning of "Eulogy" or something. I know he uses a Flange too, but i'm interested in what delay and overdrive he uses.
 
#33
Petary791 said:
+100

I hated picks, then I listened to Tool.

Anyone know what kind of pedals JC uses? I've heard a Whammy... but I can't find any signs of a Whammy. I heard it's in the beginning of "Eulogy" or something. I know he uses a Flange too, but i'm interested in what delay and overdrive he uses.
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im sure if you were to search youd find this. but because i have the time and i know...to an extent, ill tell. i also have a picture of his board in recording...mostly in peices but i can e-mail it to you if youd like.

here goes: (it could be any or none of this, im sure its changed over the years)

mesa boogie m-2000 amp
mesa boogie m-pulse amp
mesa boogie cabs - 8x10's and 2x15 (early days)
demeter pre amp
korg rack tuner
mesa boogie 400+ (early days)
wal basses
musican man stingray bass (early days)
boss - tuner, eq, flanger, delay, chorus, overdrive (early days), spectrum
dod envelope filter
rat distortion (probably set for fuzz)
digitech whammy (used on eulogy, third eye, schism, disposistion, lateralis)
sans amp - bass di, gt-2 (early days?)
foot controllers for his amps
ernie ball volume pedal
moster cables
ernie ball strings
dunlop pics
and any or all other combinations of thigns i dont knwo he has or had.

hes got so much tone shapping stuff and his amps natural overdrives... but that is a rough ball park.
 
#36
Matt Till said:
?!?!?!??!!? :rolleyes: :eyebrow: :crying: :confused: :spit: :mad: :scowl: ?!?!?!?!?!?!??!

They have never been anywhere close to punk... or metal in my opinion. Have you ever heard a punk song before?

Justin has very thin weak tone, which I don't enjoy at all, and you can always hear his pick scraping against the strings *shudder* Paul had heavy tone, and the first two albums were the closest they ever got to being metal really.
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+1
 
#38
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Till
?!?!?!??!!? ?!?!?!?!?!?!??!

They have never been anywhere close to punk... or metal in my opinion. Have you ever heard a punk song before?

Justin has very thin weak tone, which I don't enjoy at all, and you can always hear his pick scraping against the strings *shudder* Paul had heavy tone, and the first two albums were the closest they ever got to being metal really.

+.2506

Personally I think they are still considered a 'metal' act but the newer stuff is wishy-washy in comparison, more like they turned into a Transic/Stoner/Sometimes Metal band when Maynard is not feeling pink, and wearing dresses
 

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