It looks tacky on a gig. You can't move as much or go nuts on a stage with that thing on your headstock. That's boring and static. I guess I wouldn't mind it for jazz. A rock concert? Oh hell no.
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The tuner pedal "killswitch" benefit
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I use a Radial two channel pre that has a mute switch on it. Very handy. Keep it quiet when tuning, when switching basses, at end of set, etc. Nothing worse than listening to bands tune and there is absolutely no excuse for it anymore. Saw a national touring bluegrass band last fall that came out and proceeded to tune at full volume. Very unprofessional.
Q: Can you power other pedals with it?
A: Yes parallel power jack
This one does for sure; I own it, so i'm certain.
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Fun size Nick it right about it being a pass thru. The one thing that is important to know about that feature is that:
Power Input: Standard 9V DC, centre negative >100 mA
Current Draw: 45 to 50 mA (typical use)
That's out of the manual. So, the mA you have is not unlimited, so if you power something from the power output jack, both pedals have to share the mA.
you can just use the regular power connector that comes with power supplies if you just have one pedal, I believe they are a 2.1mm barrel.
So, yea the power outlet is useful and I have used it in various setups over the years, but just don't expect to be able to power your Eventide H9 with it or anything...
Hope this helps!!
A: Yes parallel power jack
This one does for sure; I own it, so i'm certain.
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Fun size Nick it right about it being a pass thru. The one thing that is important to know about that feature is that:
Power Input: Standard 9V DC, centre negative >100 mA
Current Draw: 45 to 50 mA (typical use)
That's out of the manual. So, the mA you have is not unlimited, so if you power something from the power output jack, both pedals have to share the mA.
you can just use the regular power connector that comes with power supplies if you just have one pedal, I believe they are a 2.1mm barrel.
So, yea the power outlet is useful and I have used it in various setups over the years, but just don't expect to be able to power your Eventide H9 with it or anything...
Hope this helps!!
If metal bassists can take gig video bouncing around w/ a Go-Pro clipped to the headstock, then a clip-on tuner shouldn't keep you rooted to a spot. Unless by "that thing," you meant "a pedal tuner." Then, yeah: you can't move as much or go nuts with that thing on your headstock, and it looks tacky.
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If metal bassists can take gig video bouncing around w/ a Go-Pro clipped to the headstock, then a clip-on tuner shouldn't keep you rooted to a spot. Unless by "that thing," you meant "a pedal tuner." Then, yeah: you can't move as much or go nuts with that thing on your headstock, and it looks tacky.
Every gopro headstock footage I've seen has not been exactly crazy active movement or bouncing around on stage. If you've got some examples, I'll be glad to be proved wrong. I wouldn't go nuts on a stage with a camera or a clip on tuner myself, my OCD would kick in and it would just bother me. And yea, still looks tacky to me.
@bassmusic17 Sorry to come across as pedantic...what I am trying to say is that if daisy-chaining is important to you, you don't need to rule out any of the mini pedal tuners (or going tuner-less) because they don't have a power-out socket. Instead, you could get exactly the same functionality using a different daisy-chain cable, which costs very little. Your choices of tuner are vastly expanded this way.
Re current draw - it's the max power output of the power supply that is relevant here, not the number on the pedal which just tells you how much that one pedal uses.
Re current draw - it's the max power output of the power supply that is relevant here, not the number on the pedal which just tells you how much that one pedal uses.
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What i use... Shure GLXD
And why
1. flawless wireless performance 20-20k frequency range. No more leash. Also the pack is rechargeable via USB and last for like 17 hours per charge. So I don't have buy batteries all the time as was the case with older wireless systems. The rechargeable battery is removable and replaceable.
2. great tuner with great visibility and great tracking for bass (even down to low f#)
3. Easy instrument switching. multiple body packs can be synced to the same receiver. So no need for an a/b box or unplugging and plugging in cables. You don't even have to touch the pedal to switch because the packs have their own switch.
The wireless is a two way system. Unlike older systems that only send information one way the glxd pack receives information from the receiver as well. Which allows it to do things like automatically find the best connection in real time while playing and when you unplug the pedalboard and the pack stops getting signal from the receiver and knows to power off. Which is a nice bonus to me because I can't tell you how many times I bought a brand new battery for a wireless used it for a 45 minute set and it was dead the next practice because I forgot to turn it off after the show.
As for cons yes it's a expensive. The initial system is $450 additional body pack is $230 and I also went ahead and got right angle cables and an extra battery for a spare in case I forget to charge a pack so that was another $30 for the extra battery and $2o x2 for two right angle cables. Here's what the removable battery looks like
1. flawless wireless performance 20-20k frequency range. No more leash. Also the pack is rechargeable via USB and last for like 17 hours per charge. So I don't have buy batteries all the time as was the case with older wireless systems. The rechargeable battery is removable and replaceable.
2. great tuner with great visibility and great tracking for bass (even down to low f#)
3. Easy instrument switching. multiple body packs can be synced to the same receiver. So no need for an a/b box or unplugging and plugging in cables. You don't even have to touch the pedal to switch because the packs have their own switch.
The wireless is a two way system. Unlike older systems that only send information one way the glxd pack receives information from the receiver as well. Which allows it to do things like automatically find the best connection in real time while playing and when you unplug the pedalboard and the pack stops getting signal from the receiver and knows to power off. Which is a nice bonus to me because I can't tell you how many times I bought a brand new battery for a wireless used it for a 45 minute set and it was dead the next practice because I forgot to turn it off after the show.
As for cons yes it's a expensive. The initial system is $450 additional body pack is $230 and I also went ahead and got right angle cables and an extra battery for a spare in case I forget to charge a pack so that was another $30 for the extra battery and $2o x2 for two right angle cables. Here's what the removable battery looks like
Dig...I just ordered a Line 6 G70 that has a tuner built in as well. The Shure seemed attractive to me as well, but the Line 6 has two discrete channels which will come way in handy for doubling.
My Korg clip-ons (Pitchhawk, and one other, I forget the name) work great. No problems tuning, even in loud environments. I have other clip-ons that don't track quite as well (they often have trouble with low B), but I've never encountered one that required a quiet environment.
Clip-ons save me the trouble of setting up another pedal, which is especially convenient at my gigs where I don't use any pedals (about 30% of 'em, usually tiny stages). I also love 'em at the local Wednesday open mic jam, where I never set up any pedals.
Some tuners grip better than others. But here's the thing: THEY ARE REMOVABLE. And for my rock gigs, that's exactly what I do. When I'm done tuning, I clip it to the front bumper on my stage amp.
For my non-rock gigs, I leave 'em on all the time. I see LOTS of musicians (all skill ranges) doing this. It would never occur to me that it doesn't look professional. I think musicians who don't want to use clip-ons are the only ones who say that.
Some tuners grip better than others. But here's the thing: THEY ARE REMOVABLE. And for my rock gigs, that's exactly what I do. When I'm done tuning, I clip it to the front bumper on my stage amp.
For my non-rock gigs, I leave 'em on all the time. I see LOTS of musicians (all skill ranges) doing this. It would never occur to me that it doesn't look professional. I think musicians who don't want to use clip-ons are the only ones who say that.
Not all clip on tuners are created equally. I got one free as "case candy" with something or other that I bought once, and it was really the pits. For sure couldn't read a B string...
I have a snark that lives in my "just in case" bag as a backup to my floor tuner. It's tough to mess up even if it's noisy.
I have a snark that lives in my "just in case" bag as a backup to my floor tuner. It's tough to mess up even if it's noisy.
What is unprofessional is being out of tune, period.
I'd rather listen to a band tune-up and they be in tune for their set than have to suffer through a bunch of ill-tuned music.
So use whatever tuning regimen works for you, just be sure to be in tune.
I have a pedal tuner because there are no other musicians in the world that will acquiesce to your request for a moment of silence while you tune.
Nothing sucks more than asking for a little tuning time and not getting enough of it as the band launches into a song and you're still not in tune (see first sentence in this post).
I have a clip-on tuner because on an acoustic gig, there is no way to "mute" anything anyway, and you just try to tune when the fiddler or banjo player aren't making noise. My cheapo ukulele clip-on is FAR superior to my Snark. Snarks are overhyped garbage IMO, not just from a tuning standpoint, but from a mechanical-engineering perspective – they literally fall apart.
I tune to the venue's piano when there's a pianist in the ensemble.
I just don't get the hate for clip-ons — as Fuzzbass noted: clip-on tuners are easily REMOVED and POCKETED so TAKE IT OFF FFS – just whip it out when you need it.
No need to leave it on the headstock all the time and offend the delicate sensibilities of TBs aesthetes.
Stick a PSU and a tuner in the same box and Blammo – a tuner that supplies power to other pedals.
These aren't pass-through, but... yeah, just a PSU and a tuner together as flatmates so you could say that technically the tuner still isn't providing the power — Tuner/power-supplies include HarleyBenton/Joyo, Caline CP-09, Talent PowerTune, Ortega Octopus... There are probably a few others.
I'd rather listen to a band tune-up and they be in tune for their set than have to suffer through a bunch of ill-tuned music.
So use whatever tuning regimen works for you, just be sure to be in tune.
I have a pedal tuner because there are no other musicians in the world that will acquiesce to your request for a moment of silence while you tune.
Nothing sucks more than asking for a little tuning time and not getting enough of it as the band launches into a song and you're still not in tune (see first sentence in this post).
I have a clip-on tuner because on an acoustic gig, there is no way to "mute" anything anyway, and you just try to tune when the fiddler or banjo player aren't making noise. My cheapo ukulele clip-on is FAR superior to my Snark. Snarks are overhyped garbage IMO, not just from a tuning standpoint, but from a mechanical-engineering perspective – they literally fall apart.
I tune to the venue's piano when there's a pianist in the ensemble.
I just don't get the hate for clip-ons — as Fuzzbass noted: clip-on tuners are easily REMOVED and POCKETED so TAKE IT OFF FFS – just whip it out when you need it.
No need to leave it on the headstock all the time and offend the delicate sensibilities of TBs aesthetes.
Stick a PSU and a tuner in the same box and Blammo – a tuner that supplies power to other pedals.
These aren't pass-through, but... yeah, just a PSU and a tuner together as flatmates so you could say that technically the tuner still isn't providing the power — Tuner/power-supplies include HarleyBenton/Joyo, Caline CP-09, Talent PowerTune, Ortega Octopus... There are probably a few others.
What is unprofessional is being out of tune, period.
I'd rather listen to a band tune-up and they be in tune for their set than have to suffer through a bunch of ill-tuned music.
So use whatever tuning regimen works for you, just be sure to be in tune.
I have a pedal tuner because there are no other musicians in the world that will acquiesce to your request for a moment of silence while you tune.
Nothing sucks more than asking for a little tuning time and not getting enough of it as the band launches into a song and you're still not in tune (see first sentence in this post).
I have a clip-on tuner because on an acoustic gig, there is no way to "mute" anything anyway, and you just try to tune when the fiddler or banjo player aren't making noise. My cheapo ukulele clip-on is FAR superior to my Snark. Snarks are overhyped garbage IMO, not just from a tuning standpoint, but from a mechanical-engineering perspective – they literally fall apart.
I tune to the venue's piano when there's a pianist in the ensemble.
I just don't get the hate for clip-ons — as Fuzzbass noted: clip-on tuners are easily REMOVED and POCKETED so TAKE IT OFF FFS – just whip it out when you need it.
No need to leave it on the headstock all the time and offend the delicate sensibilities of TBs aesthetes.
Stick a PSU and a tuner in the same box and Blammo – a tuner that supplies power to other pedals.
These aren't pass-through, but... yeah, just a PSU and a tuner together as flatmates so you could say that technically the tuner still isn't providing the power — Tuner/power-supplies include HarleyBenton/Joyo, Caline CP-09, Talent PowerTune, Ortega Octopus... There are probably a few others.
You learn something new every day! Those are interesting little devices. I've only ever seen the ubiquitous Boss-style pass-throughs before.
Totally the case in my band. Can't tell you how many times I've been trying to switch between electric and upright and the drummer starts counting the tune off even when it's obvious I'm not ready. I almost quit playing upright with them because of it.
If I could only use one pedal, it would be my korg pitch-black. I use the zoom stuff mostly now, and they all have the tuner/mute built in. I tried a snark, found the same issue that you have seen, and quickly ditched it.
In my Bluegrass Band we usually do not use a set list. The banjo and guitar player will be talking and then when they are ready to play I will stop them and ask "what song are you pulling out?" Hey, remember me? Guess not.
