it's all about demographics. the owners know the site has been skewing older. that is NOT the direction they want to take things, thus this attempt to attract and retain younger viewers, even " influencers. " so we get this levels and achievements stuff. the most glaring tell, of course, is the " create " button. really guys? hilarious!
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the underlying force behind the change to the site
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I haven't earned this many "achievements" since kindergarten. Frankly, if the admins want to attract users and more usage, they should just pay us cash.
The impetus was horribly out of date software that posed a security risk. The theme that sits on top of the software is designed for today’s mobile generation, yes. To do otherwise would be committing to a slow death.
I’m not sold on the achievements yet but giving it a test.
I’m not sold on the achievements yet but giving it a test.
Also, no matter what generation, many times folks couldn’t figure out how to buy from the classifieds, or even start a thread sometimes. You don’t see all the help desk tickets. 
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.i think every generation understands the one about the baby and the bathwater.Also, no matter what generation, many times folks couldn’t figure out how to buy from the classifieds, or even start a thread sometimes. You don’t see all the help desk tickets.
? How is is it different? The old platform had achievements as well. When I first signed up, they came pretty quickly. However after being a regular for a significant time and I had gathered all of the easy ones. It's been years since I have remember "achieving" something new.
So far all of the achievements I have received on the new platform seem to be duplicates (IMHO) of achievements I had previously received on the old platform: writing my first post, giving my first like, getting my first like, etc. Not really interested in any of them and find them mildly irritating. But I do think some new members will enjoy them.
I do think the ratings from peers are potentially useful. I also have a mild interest in my total posts and total likes, and the stats seem harder to find in the new platform.
You mean the generation that takes selfies whilst walking off a cliff. No thanks. Common sense change = Good. Change to attract the most narcissistic lemmings in human history = bad. I guess I should put on my flame resistant gear he he
But it looks horrible on a phone. The thread previews take up way too much space as do the advertisements. I get that younger people want shorter-form content, but there's no promise they'll ever show up and this might drive current users away. There needs to be a happy medium.
The achievements are juvenile. I'll just ignore them.
I worked in IT (Senior Network Engineer) for 30 years, until retiring a few months ago. The bane of my existence was having to install software/firmware/OS upgrades. Typically I did it, not because I wanted to, but because it was necessary to continue to receive support from the maker and maintain a modicum of security. The part that drove me crazy was when, in addition to updating the underlying functionality, stability and security, the maker of the software/firmware/OS radically changed the user interface--often following whatever was hip & trendy in UI's at that time. This would invariably result in lots of upset end-users (and IT personnel) because they were having to relearn how to navigate the new UI to get things done. That seems to have been what's happened here. The upgrade was necessary. Unfortunately, the upgrade also dramatically changed the UI, and I bet there was no option to retain the "classic" look and feel.
I too really dislike the new look and feel, but I sincerely doubt that the motivation of the powers that be at TalkBass had anything to do with demographics. That might have been a design factor for the makers of the software however.
I too really dislike the new look and feel, but I sincerely doubt that the motivation of the powers that be at TalkBass had anything to do with demographics. That might have been a design factor for the makers of the software however.
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Verified from a professional who watched the web go mobile in the 2000s & 2010s, and saw the demise of many studios who failed to adapt.
As a 15+ year IT veteran myself, I am often flattered at how much control people assume we have over certain platforms or products. Some can be shaped or customized, (many) other features cannot.
You're right, but it sucks. I still prefer long form content on a large screen, but the world wants everything dumbed down
i'm missing it --- where is the "create" button, and what is it used to create? TIA
on the issue/thesis you mentioned (growing/attracting younger members): i think that's a good move! there should always be someone, somewhere, talking bass...why not here?
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The dumb people want things dumbed down, the smart people know better. I rarely look at forums on my phone, most always use my computer.
Talkbass: Tell me you’re old without telling me you’re old
Same. I don't have a problem with the overal new look. I just don't care about some of the new features. Speed is improving, classifieds seem a bit wonky.
I believe, this all wasn't intentional and just a side-effect of preventing bitrot. things will normalize eventually.
like it happens when you cannot use your old familiar OS on a new computer anymore, so you need to take a new OS.
and you're like: for what sake they changed this? and introduced this?
this happens every now and then. now the staff needs some time to tune the new OS in a way, it will distract the user less. it'll take some time.
yeah, I know, it's not an operating system, but another kind of software suite in our case, but same principles apply and it's easier to explain it this way
like it happens when you cannot use your old familiar OS on a new computer anymore, so you need to take a new OS.
and you're like: for what sake they changed this? and introduced this?
this happens every now and then. now the staff needs some time to tune the new OS in a way, it will distract the user less. it'll take some time.
yeah, I know, it's not an operating system, but another kind of software suite in our case, but same principles apply and it's easier to explain it this way
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After working in the software industry for many years, my conclusion is changes to the UI usually occur, not spurred by user demand, but because the developers are bored with the old UI.
Previously, I worked in the publishing industry and was responsible for steering re-designs of several pubs. My conclusion was the publisher and editors usually changed it up due to their boredom with the old design.
Previously, I worked in the publishing industry and was responsible for steering re-designs of several pubs. My conclusion was the publisher and editors usually changed it up due to their boredom with the old design.
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