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The Wall - Over rated ?

is "The Wall" over-rated ?

  • yes

    Votes: 33 27.7%

  • no

    Votes: 86 72.3%
  • Total voters
    119
#2
Hi

It is what it is. You enjoy the music or not. Its basically them writing about their friend and founder of the band. I think its a great album. Music is memorable, lyrics are at time haunting. Props to Floyd.

Rob
 
#5
Honestly, I don't know what to say because I like and respect the concept, the movie and the live show, but there's a "little" thing that I don't like: THE ORIGINAL ALBUM. I have the movie, the "Is There Anybody Out There?" live set, both "The Wall Live in berlin" double LP and DVD, but I've never had and never been interested on having the original album. I don't know what it is, but simply there's something that doesn't sound right to me. I think it has to do with the fact that when it was released back in '79, I only was into Kiss and AC/DC type stuff and didn't understand what was so great about "Another Brick In The Wall Part II", which was a huge radio hit here. I only acquired the taste after seeing the movie.
 
#7
There are a lot of PF albums I like more than "The Wall". I find it rambling and self-indulgent / self-pitying. Largely autobiographical, like Roger Waters Yelling "aww poor me!! My life as a rock star is soooo bad, look mow much of an ******* I am." for 80 minutes. I listened it in it's entirety for the first time in about 10 years recently and it was better than I remember as a whole. But I still prefer "Animals". "Wish You Were Here", "The Final Cut", and "Dark Side" over it by a big margin.
 
#10
you can pull it apart and over analyse and question the motives...but the difference between the floyd and bunch of guys in a toking session is that they were daft enough to acctually do it....and pull it off.
 
#11
crispygoat said:
Do you think Pink Floyd's The Wall is over rated ? why?
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what a weird question... why do so many people want to turn a discussion of art from being a matter of subjectivity & taste into some kind of absolutist objectivist black and white thing..?

people who can only think in those terms shouldn't be in the arts, they should be hammering nails into pieces of wood somewhere

why does everything have to be 'rated' anyway...? why do we care if other people love or hate what we love or hate? are we so unsure about our tastes & beliefs that we need a mandate for them? baaaaaa

The Wall strikes me as primarily the adolescent whinings of a pompous egomaniac control freak... it's self-pitying & distasteful... despite this, I really like it and it's one of my favorite rock albums... :)
 
#12
cowsgomoo said:
what a weird question... why do so many people want to turn a discussion of art from being a matter of subjectivity & taste into some kind of absolutist objectivist black and white thing..?

people who can only think in those terms shouldn't be in the arts, they should be hammering nails into pieces of wood somewhere

why does everything have to be 'rated' anyway...? why do we care if other people love or hate what we love or hate? are we so unsure about our tastes & beliefs that we need a mandate for them? baaaaaa

The Wall strikes me as primarily the adolescent whinings of a pompous egomaniac control freak... it's self-pitying & distasteful... despite this, I really like it and it's one of my favorite rock albums... :)
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This post made me laugh :)
 
#13
cowsgomoo said:
what a weird question... why do so many people want to turn a discussion of art from being a matter of subjectivity & taste into some kind of absolutist objectivist black and white thing..?

people who can only think in those terms shouldn't be in the arts, they should be hammering nails into pieces of wood somewhere

why does everything have to be 'rated' anyway...? why do we care if other people love or hate what we love or hate? are we so unsure about our tastes & beliefs that we need a mandate for them? baaaaaa
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no, doubt and if you don't believe this started reading the Gene Simmons thread in the bassist section sheeeesh!! :hmm: :eyebrow: :eyebrow: :hmm: :confused:
 
#14
cowsgomoo said:
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The Wall strikes me as primarily the adolescent whinings of a pompous egomaniac control freak... it's self-pitying & distasteful... despite this, I really like it and it's one of my favorite rock albums... :)
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I have to say, you have a complete and total understanding of the album. :D

I remember, at the time, seeing an interview of Waters where he talked about a show in toronto where they were playing songs from their latest album (Wish you were here, maybe). The crowd just kept yelling "MONEY! MONEY! MONEY!". He was so pissed he spit on some people in the front row. After that show, it hit him how isolated and egotistical he had become - that he had built a "wall" around himself and was totally ignorant of everything and everyone else. It was the point that the idea for "the Wall" came together.

I'm not sure he ever really "tore down the wall" in any way other than just recording the album.

But like most Floyd albums, The Wall is also about Syd Barrett.

IMO, The Wall is a great concept album with a fully realized storyline (mostly thanks to Waters). And it's a great collection of songs (mostly thanks to Gilmour).

The only issue I have w/ PF is that listening to them too much can be depressing.
 

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