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The Wall - Over rated ?

is "The Wall" over-rated ?

  • yes

    Votes: 33 27.7%

  • no

    Votes: 86 72.3%
  • Total voters
    119
#61
Broadbent said:
what's up guys. first post alright!

The Wall is an awesome album, arguably Floyd/Waters best work. the only downside is that it has some of the stanard double album cliches, such as "filler songs" which. a double album is definitely a risky move but I thought this one worked quite well, with a great concept, and amazing tour.
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There are no filler songs in The Wall. In fact, they had to take one out that's part of the live performance because they couldn't fit it all in.

I was at Earls Court back in 1980 and still have the program and ticket stub. I still get shivers down my spine when I hear Comfortably Numb...

I was also lucky enough to be at the Berlin performance by Roger Waters. That was awesome.
 
#62
One word - DISCO.

If you like storylines (which I don't care about) it would go like this -

"I'm such a huge rock star that feels so sorry for himself, I'll write an album that milks the cash cow of disco and makes everybody else feel sorry for me too. Yes, that will make me feel better."

The Stones released a disco album, "Miss You", about the same time.

Disco STILL sucks.
 
#63
Metal Mitch said:
One word - DISCO.

If you like storylines (which I don't care about) it would go like this -

"I'm such a huge rock star that feels so sorry for himself, I'll write an album that milks the cash cow of disco and makes everybody else feel sorry for me too. Yes, that will make me feel better."

The Stones released a disco album, "Miss You", about the same time.

Disco STILL sucks.
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The Stones "Some Girls" album is one of their best and a personal favourite of mine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_You

I have the original 12 inch version of the Miss You single and it is a guaranteed floor filler. The Basslines are brilliant.


Disco is debatable. Some of it is classic and has great Basslines. Some of it is sheer dreck...

Pink Floyd have only written two songs that can be used in a disco... and I'm pretty sure it wasn't intentional... Just because you can dance to Another Brick In The Wall (part II) does not make the entire album a "Disco" album. ;)
 
#64
AFAICR The story about Rodger spitting on fans at a concert who wouldn't shut up is what spurred him on to do "the wall".

It is about a lot of things; his father who was killed in the war so he feels he was deprived of getting to know him because of the war, his overbearing mother who mollycoddled him, Syd who was to feature in a number of Floyd songs purely because he was such a huge part of the band in the early days and got 'lost' along the way due to too much excess and Rodger's own experiences.

even David Gilmour thinks that it is a bit of a whinge listening to it these days.

to me, it was a part of growing up, taking things that I shouldn't have to the extent that i cannot listen to anything beyond "Run Like Hell" anymore.

Modern Floyd would generally play what they thought were the best of the tracks; Comfortably Numb (my favourite track of all time by anyone), Hey You, Run Like Hell and another Brick in The Wall Part II.

It was Wright who was forced to quit during the recording of the Wall. Depending on who you listen to he either wasn't into or he was spangled all of the time so Rodger effectively told him to leave or he would destroy all of the recordings.

The Final Cut is essentially all of the crap that never made it into "The Wall" and it is hellish IMO.

At the end of the day - if someone makes a big deal of something and you disagree then it is overrated from your point of view.

I remember when "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" came out. Everyone went nuts about so I decided to go and see it. Absolute rubbish - I've never listened to the media about new releases of anything else since. I prefer to wait until all the hoo ha has calmed down and form my own judgment.

I personally like 'live at Pompeii' - one of my other favourite Floyd tracks is 'Echoes'. not the original but the version done here. remember that this was post Syd but pre-DSOTM so they were just beginning to find their feet with a new guitarist and Rodger being flung into the role of songwriter. I believe he had only wrote a couple of mediocre songs prior to Syd having to leave
 
#66
Delberthot said:
I personally like 'live at Pompeii' - one of my other favourite Floyd tracks is 'Echoes'. not the original but the version done here. remember that this was post Syd but pre-DSOTM so they were just beginning to find their feet with a new guitarist and Rodger being flung into the role of songwriter. I believe he had only wrote a couple of mediocre songs prior to Syd having to leave
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"Corporal Clegg" is not his best work.......:p
 
#68
miss you is also one of my favorite stones songs, they managed to take a boring type of music, and make it work, good bass lines and production as well.

I do however think the wall is over-rated. I mean, some of my favorite floyd songs are on that album (mother, comfortably numb, brick in the wall pt2) but outside of those songs, i just get bored with the whole album. Maybe it's just due to my musical tastes growing from when i first heard the album, but it's just not interesting to me like it was 4 or 5 years ago.
 
#71
When I was 5 years old (1975), my uncle left me a huge stack of albums when he moved to another city. I grew up worshipping these records, everything from The Beatles to Led Zepplin and of couse, some PF.

Year later when i was in my early 20's, I went to to visit my uncle and we sat around talking about music. I was shocked to find that he had no interest at all in those old albums and was into competley different music. Although he still plays in a cover band for fun and still plays a lot of old tunes, he listens to a lot more current stuff.

He explained to me by saying that he listened to those albums to death by the time he passed them onto me. He has great memories of the music of his youth but doesnt want to sit around getting misty eyed for the past when there is so much great new music to get into.

I didnt agree with him at the time and still love to put on 30 old albums, but there was some real truth to his opinion. The Wall is a great album but I have absolutely no desire to ever listen to half the songs on it as I have listened to them so many times.

With all the "Classic Rock" radio stations that have been playing the exact same play list for the past 20 years, we can all likely do without many great tunes ever agin as they have been played to death.

Of course for many new fans of music, this stuff is all brand new and damm, I would love to be discovering it all for myself again!!!
 
#73
Philbiker said:
There are a lot of PF albums I like more than "The Wall". I find it rambling and self-indulgent / self-pitying. Largely autobiographical, like Roger Waters Yelling "aww poor me!! My life as a rock star is soooo bad, look mow much of an ******* I am." for 80 minutes. I listened it in it's entirety for the first time in about 10 years recently and it was better than I remember as a whole. But I still prefer "Animals". "Wish You Were Here", "The Final Cut", and "Dark Side" over it by a big margin.
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