Theory related post from elsewhere

[glocke1]

this hurts my head.

Does it make sense to anyone?

"Quick question to affirm me also for those who study Diatonic modes? What is the perfect relationship between the perfect 4ths and the Harmonic Fifths in seems within western modes where designed to emphasize the circles of inter relativity and within each mode particularly kinda seem s like it was designed to illustrate that relationship extensively and how in all keys within these natural modes there is a direct prime like center point relation to this ,transition relation transposition alignment s in perfect order.My question is more about perfect interval s meaning those that make perfect harmonic pairs and the space between the prime it between perfect 4th and the Harmonic 5th or a perfect inversion perfect 5th between the harmonic 4th then, was it based on the theory of nine intervals within its design theory and there is a perfect 9th interval as to say at every perfect 4th and between perfect harmonic Fifths because it seems at every modes whether it is a major or minor like diatonic mode that all share still this similar symmetry .Divided and communing groups based on this measurement into by perfect intervals measurement. Diatonic natural modes were designed to be the baselines if all western musical classical formations of acoustic measurements. So the 9th interval as to say be the mystery mover to transition based in classical modes there is some kind of perfect both mathematical and progressional designed correlation to follow hence all western musical developed with such symmetry it's a beautiful theoretical and practical application to acoustic scientific measurements the organization is designed perfectly endlessly creating applications of creativity and yet having such mediums of pliability and the foundation to intellectually covalently communicate with musical languages goodnight everyone . 9 is your first primary factorization of additions to square root the base triad harmonic chord construction also. Music is math and that is beautifully inspiring"

 

[Pilgrim]

If it were broken into coherent sentences so I could read it and make sense of it, perhaps I'd have a response.

 

[glocke1]

If it were broken into coherent sentences so I could read it and make sense of it, perhaps I'd have a response.

Sorry. That was a direct copy and paste. I guess it being one long run on sentence is part of the problem

 

[Mushroo]

Does it make sense to anyone?

Nope.

 

[cxcxcx]

Reads like a troll post or posting under the influence. Nothing makes sense there at all - I think it's just a guy goofing on people.

It's possibly a reference to ratios represented in the harmonic series. That's more about physics than actual music theory. More simply, it may be a question about perfect intervals that degenerates into a rambling Unabomber statement.

In any event, here's to hoping that my response here isn't as much of an indecipherable word salad as that thing is!

 

[Stumbo]

Here's the OP broken down with a bit of editing: (may still not make sense).

"Quick question to confirm for me and also for those who study Diatonic modes.

What is the perfect relationship between the perfect 4ths and the Harmonic Fifths?

It seems within western modes were designed to emphasize the circles of inter-relativity and within each mode.

Like it was designed to illustrate that relationship extensively and, how in all keys within these natural modes, there is a direct prime-like center point relation to this transition-relation-
transposition alignment in perfect order.

My question is more about perfect interval s meaning those that make perfect harmonic pairs and the space between the prime is between perfect 4th and the Harmonic 5th or a perfect inversion perfect 5th between the harmonic 4th.

Was it based on the theory of nine intervals within its design theory and there is a perfect 9th interval, as to say at every perfect 4th and between perfect harmonic Fifths?

Because it seems in every mode, whether it is a major or minor, like diatonic mode, that they all share similar symmetry, divided and communing groups based on this measurement into perfect intervals measurement.

Diatonic natural modes were designed to be the baselines of all western musical classical formations of acoustic measurements.

So the 9th interval may be the mystery mover to transition-based classical modes.

Is there some kind of perfect mathematical and progressional designed correlation to follow; where all western musical developed with such symmetry?

it's a beautiful theoretical and practical application of acoustic scientific measurements.

The organization is designed perfectly endlessly creating applications of creativity and yet having such mediums of pliability and the foundation to intellectually covalently communicate with musical languages.

9 is your first primary factorization of additions to square root the base triad harmonic chord construction also. Music is math and that is beautifully inspiring"

 

[Carl Hillman]

this hurts my head.

Does it make sense to anyone?

"Quick question to affirm me also for those who study Diatonic modes? What is the perfect relationship between the perfect 4ths and the Harmonic Fifths in seems within western modes where designed to emphasize the circles of inter relativity and within each mode particularly kinda seem s like it was designed to illustrate that relationship extensively and how in all keys within these natural modes there is a direct prime like center point relation to this ,transition relation transposition alignment s in perfect order.My question is more about perfect interval s meaning those that make perfect harmonic pairs and the space between the prime it between perfect 4th and the Harmonic 5th or a perfect inversion perfect 5th between the harmonic 4th then, was it based on the theory of nine intervals within its design theory and there is a perfect 9th interval as to say at every perfect 4th and between perfect harmonic Fifths because it seems at every modes whether it is a major or minor like diatonic mode that all share still this similar symmetry .Divided and communing groups based on this measurement into by perfect intervals measurement. Diatonic natural modes were designed to be the baselines if all western musical classical formations of acoustic measurements. So the 9th interval as to say be the mystery mover to transition based in classical modes there is some kind of perfect both mathematical and progressional designed correlation to follow hence all western musical developed with such symmetry it's a beautiful theoretical and practical application to acoustic scientific measurements the organization is designed perfectly endlessly creating applications of creativity and yet having such mediums of pliability and the foundation to intellectually covalently communicate with musical languages goodnight everyone . 9 is your first primary factorization of additions to square root the base triad harmonic chord construction also. Music is math and that is beautifully inspiring"

Either english is the op's second language, or s/he purposefully posted a grammatical mishmash of sentence fragments sprinkled with random words selected from music theory and science of acoustics textbooks.

 

[db59]

perfect intervals that degenerates into a rambling Unabomber statement.

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this made laugh......the rest made me nausea

 

[Pilgrim]

 

[Spun__Kee]

this hurts my head.

Does it make sense to anyone?

"Quick question to affirm me also for those who study Diatonic modes? What is the perfect relationship between the perfect 4ths and the Harmonic Fifths in seems within western modes where designed to emphasize the circles of inter relativity and within each mode particularly kinda seem s like it was designed to illustrate that relationship extensively and how in all keys within these natural modes there is a direct prime like center point relation to this ,transition relation transposition alignment s in perfect order.My question is more about perfect interval s meaning those that make perfect harmonic pairs and the space between the prime it between perfect 4th and the Harmonic 5th or a perfect inversion perfect 5th between the harmonic 4th then, was it based on the theory of nine intervals within its design theory and there is a perfect 9th interval as to say at every perfect 4th and between perfect harmonic Fifths because it seems at every modes whether it is a major or minor like diatonic mode that all share still this similar symmetry .Divided and communing groups based on this measurement into by perfect intervals measurement. Diatonic natural modes were designed to be the baselines if all western musical classical formations of acoustic measurements. So the 9th interval as to say be the mystery mover to transition based in classical modes there is some kind of perfect both mathematical and progressional designed correlation to follow hence all western musical developed with such symmetry it's a beautiful theoretical and practical application to acoustic scientific measurements the organization is designed perfectly endlessly creating applications of creativity and yet having such mediums of pliability and the foundation to intellectually covalently communicate with musical languages goodnight everyone . 9 is your first primary factorization of additions to square root the base triad harmonic chord construction also. Music is math and that is beautifully inspiring"

OP, not sure where you are getting your terminology.

"Harmonic Fifth"? What?

The Perfect Intervals are:

Perfect Unison
Perfect Octave
Perfect Fourth
Perfect Eleventh
Perfect Fifth
Perfect Twelfth

Watch the consumption.

 

[DrThumpenstein]

Mania or intoxication. Both Unfortunately common in many artists.

 

[quindecima]

When this guy opens his eyes he is going to find himself looking at the inside of his large intestine.

 

[bfields]

Does it make sense to anyone?

Nope.

(My background, for what it's worth: a couple years of college music theory and a math PhD. But, I'm also not very patient. If someone else wants to try to make sense out of it, have at it.)

 

[InhumanResource]

Music is math and that is beautifully inspiring"

No. Music is art and analysis is math. Whoever wrote this, I've met their type in music school and they talk out their ass. This is the guy who asks McCoy Tyner at a clinic about their "Intervallic choices". Unless they play like George Benson I don't care.

 

[bfields]

No. Music is art and analysis is math. Whoever wrote this, I've met their type in music school and they talk out their ass. This is the guy who asks McCoy Tyner at a clinic about their "Intervallic choices". Unless they play like George Benson I don't care.

Eh, for all their faults, over-analyzing music students are usually still capable of forming coherent sentences.

 

[InhumanResource]

Eh, for all their faults, over-analyzing music students are usually still capable of forming coherent sentences.

No argument there, brother.

 

[Mushroo]

Can you provide a link to the forum where this was originally posted? I would love to see it in context of the original discussion, if only for entertainment value.

 

[BassUrges]

Thought:

He's referring to the octave as the "perfect 9th," because it's the "sum" of a 4th and a 5th. If you start at 1, go to the 4th, and then treat the 4th as 1 and go to the 5th, you will find yourself an octave above the original 1 (in equal temperament--I'm not sure he grasps the importance of temperament). It also works going to the 5th and then the 4th above that. This is definitely NOT the 9th you are familiar with from jazz chord charts.

That is the closest I can come to extracting sense from this. To answer his "question," yes, the octave is important in Western music, and indeed, many other musical traditions (as is what we call the 5th, though it doesn't always go by that name). Because the first two harmonics of a vibrating string or column of air are 1) octave and 2) octave + perfect fifth.

 

[Spun__Kee]

Thought:

He's referring to the octave as the "perfect 9th," because it's the "sum" of a 4th and a 5th. If you start at 1, go to the 4th, and then treat the 4th as 1 and go to the 5th, you will find yourself an octave above the original 1 (in equal temperament--I'm not sure he grasps the importance of temperament). It also works going to the 5th and then the 4th above that. This is definitely NOT the 9th you are familiar with from jazz chord charts.

That is the closest I can come to extracting sense from this. To answer his "question," yes, the octave is important in Western music, and indeed, many other musical traditions (as is what we call the 5th, though it doesn't always go by that name). Because the first two harmonics of a vibrating string or column of air are 1) octave and 2) octave + perfect fifth.

Are you and the OP working together?

 

[DJ Bebop]

this hurts my head.

Does it make sense to anyone?

"Quick question to affirm me also for those who study Diatonic modes? What is the perfect relationship between the perfect 4ths and the Harmonic Fifths in seems within western modes where designed to emphasize the circles of inter relativity and within each mode particularly kinda seem s like it was designed to illustrate that relationship extensively and how in all keys within these natural modes there is a direct prime like center point relation to this ,transition relation transposition alignment s in perfect order.My question is more about perfect interval s meaning those that make perfect harmonic pairs and the space between the prime it between perfect 4th and the Harmonic 5th or a perfect inversion perfect 5th between the harmonic 4th then, was it based on the theory of nine intervals within its design theory and there is a perfect 9th interval as to say at every perfect 4th and between perfect harmonic Fifths because it seems at every modes whether it is a major or minor like diatonic mode that all share still this similar symmetry .Divided and communing groups based on this measurement into by perfect intervals measurement. Diatonic natural modes were designed to be the baselines if all western musical classical formations of acoustic measurements. So the 9th interval as to say be the mystery mover to transition based in classical modes there is some kind of perfect both mathematical and progressional designed correlation to follow hence all western musical developed with such symmetry it's a beautiful theoretical and practical application to acoustic scientific measurements the organization is designed perfectly endlessly creating applications of creativity and yet having such mediums of pliability and the foundation to intellectually covalently communicate with musical languages goodnight everyone . 9 is your first primary factorization of additions to square root the base triad harmonic chord construction also. Music is math and that is beautifully inspiring"