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Thick Inflexible Picks.That's the way.

Discussion in 'Accessories [BG]' started by gebass6, Jul 6, 2015.

  1. gebass6

    gebass6 We're not all trying to play the same music. Supporting Member

    I have never been a real pick user.
    I've tried many times in the past.With regular guitar picks.
    I could never really get the hang of it.
    The pick angle needs to be just so.
    It seems to hang up on the string.

    So I've been trying out SikPiks and a new Agate 3.8 mm pick.

    The thing about the SikPik is that it has a twist.So the pick hits the string at an angle and slips over the string effortlessly.
    That makes sixteenth note playing quite a bit quicker.
    It doesn't flex much.
    To me at least. Snapshot_2015706 (2).jpg

    The Agate pick is completely inflexible. Snapshot_2015706 (3).jpg
    Of course.
    It's silica.And it won't break.
    Not easily anyway.
    And I don't need to twist the pick because of the thickness!
    There's a bevel.

    The downside is that Agate picks are a bit pricy for one pick.
    $16.00 - $18.00 But I don't need to buy a bunch.So.....

    All the pick motion energy is transferred to the string.
    It would also seem that because there is no flexing that there is no delay of energy transfer.
    It slips over the string.Moving the string only.I like.

    So I seem to be in the camp of hard thick picks.

    What do you think? Snapshot_2015706.jpg
    Last edited: Aug 4, 2016
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  2. I went from fingerstyle to pick due to wrist issues.

    I need a think heavy pick that I can keep a good grip on. I ended up eventually on dunlop big stubbies and they do the job. I am not an incredibly fast player though.
    netminderchuck likes this.
  3. tedious1


    Feb 14, 2014
    You might want to take a look at Dava picks, particularly any of their 'control grip' picks. Where you grip the pick affects how rigid it is in use.
    EricssonB likes this.
  4. fearceol


    Nov 14, 2006
    I am not an expert on picks or picking, but would this not have an effect on playing upstrokes ?
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  5. gebass6

    gebass6 We're not all trying to play the same music. Supporting Member

    No.You get the same feel as downstrokes.This pick is excellent for fast alternate picking.
  6. NoiseNinja

    NoiseNinja Experimental-psychedelic-ambient-noise-drone

    Feb 23, 2011
    I use classical guitar style fingering technique, but when that don't cut I use a Jim Dunlop Nylon 0.73 MM pick.

    It has just the right feel for me.

    I don't quite understand people who uses really thick and hard picks.
    Jools4001 likes this.
  7. i use 2mm dunlop gator picks or occasionally i use 2mm adamas graphite picks though its not really necessary and sounds silly to admit
  8. gebass6

    gebass6 We're not all trying to play the same music. Supporting Member

    It's easy to understand.
    You said it yourself.
    "It has just the right feel for me"
    Last edited: Aug 8, 2015
  9. JimmyM


    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    You don't have to :p But since you asked...

    Thick and hard picks take the strain off your hand to do the work of making sound. Anything that flops causes me to work twice as hard to get the same amount of volume, and when my hand is working like that, pain is not far behind.
  10. BazzTard

    BazzTard Inactive

    +1 for 2mm Dunlop Gators
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  11. JustForSport


    Nov 17, 2011
    +1- "i use 2mm adamas graphite picks"- they are very rigid, easy to keep a grip with since they are flat (not glossy) finish with writing texture, and using the more rounded corners helps eliminate that 'plastic clicking' sound a lot of picks generate.
  12. TheRealSouthner


    Jul 8, 2015
    I use dunlop 3mm big stubby for guitar, and also for bass before I switched to fingers
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  13. lpbfender

    lpbfender Supporting Member

    Jan 7, 2012
    Stamford CT
    Picks are a super personal preference thing. I use a 2mm Dunlop that's not glossy and stays with me when I sweat. For faster passages like Genesis' "Watcher of the Skies", I like an old school Fender medium tortoise cause they need to bend. I'll never forget hearing jazz guitar great Pat Metheny answer a question as to why he used such a small pick at a master class I attended. His reply, "the music store near where I grew up only sold these small banjo picks."
  14. Bass Growler

    Bass Growler

    Jul 10, 2015
    I always use Dunlop nylon 1mm picks.
    The nylon takes away some of the edginess that comes with tortex, it mellows it out a little.
  15. gebass6

    gebass6 We're not all trying to play the same music. Supporting Member

    Three more Agate picks are on the way.This one. Agate 5.JPG
    This one. Agate 4jpg.JPG
    Agate.JPG And just one from this group.Not all seven.
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2015
  16. zontar


    Feb 19, 2014
    I've owned several agate picks over the years (And other polished stone picks.)
    I like them, a lot--I still use them on guitar sometimes.

    You might not break they by picking-but if you drop them on a hard surface--they can break--It's happened to me, and I've seen it happen others.
  17. gebass6

    gebass6 We're not all trying to play the same music. Supporting Member

    Yes.And coupled with the fact that they are a bit pricey.
    You wouldn't want to buy a whole lot of them.
  18. gebass6

    gebass6 We're not all trying to play the same music. Supporting Member

    OK.I have all five Agate picks.
    Five different thicknesses.
    I find that I favor the thickest of them all.

    The thicknesses.
    .178 Snapshot_2015725.jpg
    .123 Snapshot_2015706 (3).jpg
    .118 Agate 4jpg.JPG
    .071 Agate 5.JPG
    .057 Snapshot_2015725 (2).jpg I find that the thinner ones feel/respond the same as a thin plastic pick.
    Last edited: Jul 27, 2015
  19. gebass6

    gebass6 We're not all trying to play the same music. Supporting Member

    I'm going to give those a try next.
    They seem to be almost as thick as my thickest agate pick.But not so expensive.
    I've also heard that they don't have much attack noise on the strings.
    Last edited: Jul 28, 2015
  20. 20db pad

    20db pad

    Feb 11, 2003
    I been everywhere, man...
    None. At all.
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