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Things you hate that every local band seems to do
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Right, because covering songs women usually like, or will dance to is a terrible idea.
Jonyak said:
Please refer to the chicks at shows thread.... http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=694877&page=9
That's why we put up with this.
jp58,
I am a bar manager who hears that songs 20 times a day on the juke box. When the live band plays it while I am working, I feel like banging my head against the fridge doors...it is more of a personal dislike for kings of leon than anything due to it's songs being drilled into my brain.
Cheers,
Jordan
I am a bar manager who hears that songs 20 times a day on the juke box. When the live band plays it while I am working, I feel like banging my head against the fridge doors...it is more of a personal dislike for kings of leon than anything due to it's songs being drilled into my brain.
Cheers,
Jordan
Thats what I was thinkin.
Yes some things annoy me...but mostly its when I'm envious of a band thats doin awesome on a particular night or suttin.
So..thats why I aint badmouthin anyone.I don't wanna be badmouthed..and as I read thru this, there are just certain things that are almost Expected, or routine..or whatev.
Just sometimes...SOME of the items are part of the coverband experience.Sometimes.
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Singers telling the story behind every song.Just play it!
One of my (original) bands tends to do this. It may be interesting to you and maybe two people in the crowd, but you aren't James Taylor...let me echo, just play it!!
Yeah, jokingly is fine and that is funny, I'm gonna steal it for one of our songs. Even a quick sentence is OK, but when bands give the whole history of every song, bleh.
Yeah man. I know what you mean. Even if you like the music, hearing it 20 times a day over the sound system at work would kill it for me too.
Its just one of those things thats frustrating on both sides. I get tired of hearing "Why do you play X?" and you get tired of hearing X.
Originally Posted by MatticusMania
people hate enough as it is. if there is one thing Ive learned from gigging over the past 9 years its live and let live. All of you here who are criticizing your local bands are guilty of some pet peeve that someone else abhors. Get over yourselves.
Fair enough. I suppose the only thing a band can do that really p's me off is when they do their whole act looking like their dog just died. This mean and moody thing just doesn't do it for me. Otherwise live and let live, I agree.
people hate enough as it is. if there is one thing Ive learned from gigging over the past 9 years its live and let live. All of you here who are criticizing your local bands are guilty of some pet peeve that someone else abhors. Get over yourselves.
Fair enough. I suppose the only thing a band can do that really p's me off is when they do their whole act looking like their dog just died. This mean and moody thing just doesn't do it for me. Otherwise live and let live, I agree.
Quick tuning (inside 10 seconds) is forgiveable. Anything longer than that, stomp your tuner.
Some song introductions might be fine. Any more than 2 in an original set of an hour or less is too much, and any more than 3 all night for a coverband is too much.
Looking the part depends on the genre, scene and area of the world. It is the corporate machine that cares about how you look, and I only care about the sound. Bands like Yes (indeed, the whole prog-rock movement) and Motorhead would never make it today, thanks to the "lookism" spawned by MTV.
Guitards that resort to the same cliches can be soooooo annoying, but I always tell myself that it is someone else who is manifesting suck, and not me; I'm just the bassist.
Noodling can be problematic. We have all done it at one point in our lives. Just don't do it. The only time that it is acceptable is during the final pre-set moments of the gig. In a coverband, this means 3 or 4 distinct times of the night, but none of them should exceed 30 seconds.
It's OK to be seen as human; to make a mistake. Just finesse the exit from it and keep playing. This is where music and golf are alike. If you think about the mistake/bad shot that you just hit too much, chances are better that you will make another one soon, and likely to your detriment.
Everybody wants to be Paul Stanley at some point. The Starchild's way of addressing the audience is legendary, and often imitated. Unless you are actually playing to a crowd of over 500, you might want to leave the arena-rock pretensions at home. Obviously, moderation is the key here. I have played to 14K people and not said a word, and I have played to a bar of perhaps 100 and been very engaging. Gig enough, and you learn to "read" a crowd; to recognize what "tribes" are present in it, and, if you know enough songs as a coverband, you can adapt on the fly to what your eyes are telling you.
Overindulgent solos only work when they are rare, and actually serve the song. IMHO, the most tasteful guitar solo ever played is by Todd Rundgren, in Utopia's "More Light." TR holds the first note for the first 2/1/2 bars of the 8 bar solo, and goes gonzo with arpegiations thereafter in a way that pushes the solo to a satisfying climax, just as it is time for the chorus to be sung as a closing refrain. How many "original" bands out there would struggle to decipher what I just wrote? The solo thing works if you have a truly gifted player with chops, ear and taste, and not just the guitard either. Those of us who are weary of Brown-eyed Girl can at least cop a quick bass solo in G after the first chorus to make the performance "ours." Again, never more than 8 bars, and, while I may go all over the place for the first 6 of 'em, I will always tag out with a bit of the Flintstones theme.
Sometimes, the coverband thing is thirsty work, and when there is no other way to get a drink, we use the mic as the court of last resort. This should NEVER happen with an original band.
Slutty 6's and 7's on the 10 scale waiting after the gig is not too much of a problem in Arizona. These gals simply don't go out to the kind of gigs that I play (mostly the usual coverband, 4-setters). I did have to fight a few of them off when I backed an acoustic player at a coffee house gig, so maybe that's where they go.
Yes, it is live and let live. If other bands are manifesting suck, then it is up to mine to do it less, minimize it, and eliminate it. If we do that, there will still be nights where the crowd is on the dead side, and nights where we're the best thing since sliced bread.
That's all I have to say about that.
Some song introductions might be fine. Any more than 2 in an original set of an hour or less is too much, and any more than 3 all night for a coverband is too much.
Looking the part depends on the genre, scene and area of the world. It is the corporate machine that cares about how you look, and I only care about the sound. Bands like Yes (indeed, the whole prog-rock movement) and Motorhead would never make it today, thanks to the "lookism" spawned by MTV.
Guitards that resort to the same cliches can be soooooo annoying, but I always tell myself that it is someone else who is manifesting suck, and not me; I'm just the bassist.
Noodling can be problematic. We have all done it at one point in our lives. Just don't do it. The only time that it is acceptable is during the final pre-set moments of the gig. In a coverband, this means 3 or 4 distinct times of the night, but none of them should exceed 30 seconds.
It's OK to be seen as human; to make a mistake. Just finesse the exit from it and keep playing. This is where music and golf are alike. If you think about the mistake/bad shot that you just hit too much, chances are better that you will make another one soon, and likely to your detriment.
Everybody wants to be Paul Stanley at some point. The Starchild's way of addressing the audience is legendary, and often imitated. Unless you are actually playing to a crowd of over 500, you might want to leave the arena-rock pretensions at home. Obviously, moderation is the key here. I have played to 14K people and not said a word, and I have played to a bar of perhaps 100 and been very engaging. Gig enough, and you learn to "read" a crowd; to recognize what "tribes" are present in it, and, if you know enough songs as a coverband, you can adapt on the fly to what your eyes are telling you.
Overindulgent solos only work when they are rare, and actually serve the song. IMHO, the most tasteful guitar solo ever played is by Todd Rundgren, in Utopia's "More Light." TR holds the first note for the first 2/1/2 bars of the 8 bar solo, and goes gonzo with arpegiations thereafter in a way that pushes the solo to a satisfying climax, just as it is time for the chorus to be sung as a closing refrain. How many "original" bands out there would struggle to decipher what I just wrote? The solo thing works if you have a truly gifted player with chops, ear and taste, and not just the guitard either. Those of us who are weary of Brown-eyed Girl can at least cop a quick bass solo in G after the first chorus to make the performance "ours." Again, never more than 8 bars, and, while I may go all over the place for the first 6 of 'em, I will always tag out with a bit of the Flintstones theme.
Sometimes, the coverband thing is thirsty work, and when there is no other way to get a drink, we use the mic as the court of last resort. This should NEVER happen with an original band.
Slutty 6's and 7's on the 10 scale waiting after the gig is not too much of a problem in Arizona. These gals simply don't go out to the kind of gigs that I play (mostly the usual coverband, 4-setters). I did have to fight a few of them off when I backed an acoustic player at a coffee house gig, so maybe that's where they go.
Yes, it is live and let live. If other bands are manifesting suck, then it is up to mine to do it less, minimize it, and eliminate it. If we do that, there will still be nights where the crowd is on the dead side, and nights where we're the best thing since sliced bread.
That's all I have to say about that.
Just remember that, to be a 6 or 7 means that you might be pretty in face, but not thin in the waist, or be a butter face with a passable body. We must adhere to our standards, lest cannibalism ensue (in the form of gnawing your arm off to escape the bed of such a beast the next morning).
You can only follow that plan twice; 'tis more prudent to split as soon as possible afterwards.
