Scanning through Petracchi's Simplified higher technique, I see that in lower positions, he's using the 'italian fingering' - 1-3-4 instead of 1-2-4. I kind of thought that this was a thing of the past, because I don't remember ever seeing anyone using 1-3-4 fingering. I remember once reading an essay about that when you go halftone up, you could benefit from using 1-2 fingering, whereas when going down you could benefit from 4-3 fingering (less muscle movement, more fingers used = less fatique). Never tried, I have no real opinion. I also know that Ray Brown in his Bass Method advocated using third finger as low as ergonomically possible, adopting the guitar fingering 1-2-3-4 somewhere around Simandl third position and up. Coming from bass guitar, I thought this one practical, but after some time I switched to 1-2-4 as it is somehow mentally clearer to me, on this endless black fingerboard. So I wanted to ask: does anyone use the third finger in lower positions, how, and why? Thanks!