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This Lollar P Pickup is worth it

#41
I haven’t seen any negative review about the sound from the Geezer Butler pickups. Everyone I know who has/had it loved it.

I love them too but the pickups themselves are humongous and hard to adjust their height because of all that extra stuff below the pickup. Sound-wise, what a beast.
 
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MovingPitchers said:
I haven’t seen any negative review about the sound from the Geezer Butler pickups. Everyone I know who has/had it loved it.

I love them too but the pickups themselves are humongous and hard to adjust their height because of all that extra stuff below the pickup. Sound-wise, what a beast.
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Was skeptical on gzr until I saw it for my self
Easy install and zero hum. Pretty cool pickups
 
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Evan J said:
Fascinating… I think I need to learn more about the actual science behind all this, but it’s very interesting.

Totally agree about the popular pickups and how the sounds is very subjective. Especially in regards to genre and use case.

What are you hearing in the lower ohms that you enjoy? Is it the “weak” pickup effect that adds some vintage mojo and keeps clean top end?
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Short answer to your question about lower ohms. I hear better clarity, definition. The frequencies are not as mushed together. I guess I should say that I hear "less mud". The 41hz of the open E string is more tangible.

There's a little less output with lower ohms but that 9k MIJ P pickup IMO has maybe 5% to 8% less output. Not much of a loss. (Generally speaking, a vintage J Bass' pickups are only around 7k, a little more a little less. Nothing wrong with lower ohms.)
 
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#44
Evan J said:
2. Every hand position sounds good

The player series pickup had a smaller range where you could play and keep clarity. But the Lollar picks up all the goodness from the neck to the bridge. Very cool.
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Interesting! I get tones I like playing between the pickup and neck, but after experimenting with touch, technique, setup, EQ, HPF/LPF, I still have not found a sound I want from playing over the neck. To be fair, I still have the stock strings on and am intentionally keeping them on while I work on these other adjustments. Maybe different/new strings will give me a different result, snd good to know a different pickup might help too.
 
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induction said:
Interesting! I get tones I like playing between the pickup and neck, but after experimenting with touch, technique, setup, EQ, HPF/LPF, I still have not found a sound I want from playing over the neck. To be fair, I still have the stock strings on and am intentionally keeping them on while I work on these other adjustments. Maybe different/new strings will give me a different result, snd good to know a different pickup might help too.
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Yes! This was a happy surprise of this pickup. It keeps enough articulation to hear some more note definition while playing near the neck, but it stays nice and warm still like you would want from neck position.

Somehow this pickup is warmer and clearer at the same time. Not sure how they did it but it’s pretty cool
 
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Pocket Dave said:
Big difference for me too, though the bar was already pretty low compared to what would've been more readily appropriate for my main band.

I've got a standard wind Lollar split P in my Player P; The original pickup sounded ok, but the best pickup height range for tone with nickel rounds was narrow and it didn't match the best pickup height for unity volume across the strings; I couldn't get that pickup out fast enough.

Next up was a Duncan Quarter Pounder; I actually liked it. It just wasn't a good match for my main band, band backing an acoustic guitar and sax player.

The Lollar split P seems to match my needs well; It's balanced, articulate and responsive to dynamics. It also packs a classic P bass punch without being completely over the top.

Some sample clips from a gig last December running through an Aguilar Tone Hammer 500 and 210 cab:











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That’s the sound right there! Sits so nice in the mix
 
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Evan J said:
Yes! This was a happy surprise of this pickup. It keeps enough articulation to hear some more note definition while playing near the neck, but it stays nice and warm still like you would want from neck position.

Somehow this pickup is warmer and clearer at the same time. Not sure how they did it but it’s pretty cool
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This is very helpful. The majority of demos I found give a representation of finger, pick, slap, all with different tone settings.
 
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JimmyM said:
I'm afraid I do. Great feeling basses, but the pickups are not what I want in Fender pickups.
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Evan J said:
Generally through, I think player series is a great line. Best P’s and J’s in $500-$1000 range.
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Before I got the Player P, I tried an Am Pro II P. I really wanted to try either an Am Vintage II 60s, or the Vintera II 60s, but did not find either of these locally. The fit and finish on the Am Pro II was great, it felt comfortable, it sounded good but just not quite what I wanted. Then I tried a Player. The fit and finish was much better than all the Players I tried in early 2023 (maybe those were left over from COVID manufacturing times?) and it was comfortable too. Since I was thinking I might want to change the pickup on the Am Pro anyway, I decided get the Player.
 
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induction said:
I have been listening (and relistening) to demos in this series. It is very useful! The signal chain, bass, and string type is the same throughout the series, also the same player for each demo.
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Only thing is, they start each review with a clip of the same pickup, which I think is the Bart. So if you want to compare pickups directly it’s best to start a few minutes in.

My favorite just based on these videos is Kloppman 57, of course, since it costs about twice as much as the others.
 
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Paul New said:
Only thing is, they start each review with a clip of the same pickup, which I think is the Bart. So if you want to compare pickups directly it’s best to start a few minutes in.

My favorite just based on these videos is Kloppman 57, of course, since it costs about twice as much as the others.
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Good point. I admit I now have the skip to the demo starting point in muscle memory. :)
Correct, they said in one of the comments the intro clip is Bartolini.

I really liked the Kloppmans. I still think I am hearing a blooming quality from the 4p-60 which I am not hearing in the others and so it is still my top choice, but admit price of the Kloppmans might be influencing me.
 
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induction said:
Good point. I admit I now have the skip to the demo starting point in muscle memory. :)
Correct, they said in one of the comments the intro clip is Bartolini.

I really liked the Kloppmans. I still think I am hearing a blooming quality from the 4p-60 which I am not hearing in the others and so it is still my top choice, but admit price of the Kloppmans might be influencing me.
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The Kloppman 57 and Aguilar 4p-60
sound very close to my ears. Both have lots of grain. I think I hear a little more top end from the Aguilar set. I would love to hear the Lollars in this comparison.

I’m sure that non-P ers think we’re crazy paying so much attention to these pretty subtle differences.
 
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