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Thoughts on Pino Palladino

#201
JimmyM said:
Am I not allowed to state my opinions and believe in them?
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Of course you are allowed to - and so are the rest of us - its a public forum. :thumbsup:

Once we have both done so, the only thing left to do is either;

A = Attempt to sway one another's opinion, using logic & factual statements.
or
B = Agree to disagree. (My choice, after this last post here)

Because there is no right or wrong when discussing taste & preferences of musicians.

I believe everyone here is agrees that Pino is a fantastic musician. Some of us simply don't think he's the best fit for the Who.
This is not a show of disrespect for Pino, nor is it a show of disrespect for the Who.
I'm sure Pino is happy with the gig (who wouldn't be!), the Who are obviously happy with their choice of bassist, and many of the fans are happy as well.
Some of us, however, are less than thrilled.
I think the Who still rock. I'd give my left testicle for a gig like that. They are still a great band, but, IMHO, they are not as good as they were with the Ox on bass.
 
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I'm in an adventurous mood right now. So I'll say this. In spite of everything I've never really been a big fan of The Who. Also, let it be noted, Jimi Hendrix blew them off the stage at Monterrey. I will balance that out somewhat, though, by saying that "I Can See For Miles" is probably my favorite rock song of all time. Also, strictly my opinion, but Pino Palladino may very well be the greatest bassist in the world today. Would I like to see him playing with someone else rather than the Who? I probably would.
 
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Marial said:
His work with D'Angelo is extraordinary.
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To really appreciate the genius of Pino and his pbass mastering you have to study his neo - soul / jazz work. Not only with Dangelo, but his playing with Eryka Badu, Jill Scott, Gretchen Palmato, Anthony Hamilton and even John Mayer are where he really shines. The Who aren't about a groove. Pino's phrasing and infectious grooves and melodic bass lines are pure genius. The fact that he can do the fret less thing as well as just hold it down for The Who just adds to the proof of his genius. He isn't a one trick pony. And he doesn't need fancy scale running chops or to be up front in the mix slapping or trebly to be a great player.
 
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Not directed at you Troy or anyone particular.
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LOL
 
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Icculus said:
A thread titled "Thoughts on Pino Palladino" became a long debate about the state of The Who. Honestly, when I think of Pino Palladino, The Who is one of the last things that comes to mind. Like discussing Brett Favre's career and dissecting his year with the Jets. I hope Pino isn't as bold with his camera phone as Mr. Favre was.
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amen brother. his pioneering work with neo soul artist d'angelo, erykah badu, etc and john mayer would come to mind before a cover gig with the who or NIN.

pino is a master truly, one of my biggest influences other than jamerson.
 
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markjazzbassist said:
amen brother. his pioneering work with neo soul artist d'angelo, erykah badu, etc and john mayer would come to mind before a cover gig with the who or NIN.

pino is a master truly, one of my biggest influences other than jamerson.
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Don't forget Paul Young and Don Henley in the 80's either!
 
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TJH3113 said:
Couldn't agree more with that. I saw them with Entwistle and then with Palladino just after John's death. I assumed they chose Pino because he's a great player, had associations with Townsend, and could perform the material on short notice.
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I have not read the entire thread
But did he not also play with Daltry before he stepped into the Who gig?
 
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quilanthegreat said:
I'd encourage you to listen to the John Mayer track "Edge of Desire". The pop session work Pino does is certainly not him playing beneath his abilities. Pino is a master of serving the song with complex melodic movement, but staying in the pocket so brilliantly that it never sounds like overplaying. Transcribe that Edge of Desire tune and you'll see how scientific his playing really is. Awareness of space and ability to utilize that space are second to none. Pino is truly one of the greatest players of the modern era, and that's an opinion held universally in popular music.

Pino ranks as high as Victor, Jamerson, Clarke and Jaco IMO.
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It's funny that "Edge of Desire" is what I started transcribing this week. Smooth track!
 
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Icculus said:
A thread titled "Thoughts on Pino Palladino" became a long debate about the state of The Who. Honestly, when I think of Pino Palladino, The Who is one of the last things that comes to mind. Like discussing Brett Favre's career and dissecting his year with the Jets. I hope Pino isn't as bold with his camera phone as Mr. Favre was.
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Well, it has been his steady gig since 2002- the one that makes him unavailable to do other people's gigs if the Who are playing. In fact, his first high profile gig was with Paul Young and then on Pete Townshend's solo albums, way before D'Angelo, John Mayer, or anything.

To think of it as just a cover gig doesn't seem correct: the Who is Pino's main gig. I bet he drives a fancier car because of the Who, not because of session work. There's a difference between doing a John Mayer tour or a few dates with d'Angelo and being on retainer for one of the last big touring acts of the defining era of big rock tours. Not to be crass, I LOVE some of the neo- soul stuff he did as a musician, but that's not what pays the mortgage.
 
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corinpills said:
Well, it has been his steady gig since 2002- the one that makes him unavailable to do other people's gigs if the Who are playing. In fact, his first high profile gig was with Paul Young and then on Pete Townshend's solo albums, way before D'Angelo, John Mayer, or anything.

To think of it as just a cover gig doesn't seem correct: the Who is Pino's main gig. I bet he drives a fancier car because of the Who, not because of session work. There's a difference between doing a John Mayer tour or a few dates with d'Angelo and being on retainer for one of the last big touring acts of the defining era of big rock tours. Not to be crass, I LOVE some of the neo- soul stuff he did as a musician, but that's not what pays the mortgage.
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Who cares what kind of car he drives or what pays the mortgage? We're talking on a bass forum about his tone, gear choice, legacy as a player, etc.

Sorry, but it looks like you're just trying to make a senseless counterpoint to my post, and all you're really saying is that The Who gig pays better. I'm talking about Pino Palladino, the bassist... not the financially savvy working musician. Do a TB search on Pino Palladino and tell me what % of your results are about his work with The Who, versus everything else he's done.
 
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Craig Fones said:
Jeff Beck mentioned in an interview that he wanted to record and tour with Pino Pallidino but he couldn't come close to offering him the amount of work he has with The Who. It would have been interesting to hear what would have come out of a Pino/Jeff Beck collaboration.
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Beck released a live official bootleg of his tour with Pino from his website a few years ago, some great stuff. It was the tour right before Tal joined.
 
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jerry said:
Beck released a live official bootleg of his tour with Pino from his website a few years ago, some great stuff. It was the tour right before Tal joined.
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You're right. I have both of the official bootleg CDs (2003 one 2006) and didn't know Pino was on the 2006 CD. There was no bass player on the 2003 CD (Tony Hymas on Keyboard). I'll have to see if I can find the date of the interview where JB talks about Pino.
 

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