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Thoughts on Squire Basses for Professional Musicians?

#102
To me Fender shoot themselves in the foot when they started offereing different price point for the exact same bass, dilluing their quality. When your lowest and highest look the same, play the same and almost sound the same ... hard to justify a MIA ... which isn't the case of Ibanez. Their lower model will have a hard plastic finish while they very expensive model will have fancy woods and overall better construction.
 
#104
is Herbie flowers professional enough?

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http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/herbie-flowers-jazz-bass-549360/index5.html
 
#105
blues_bassist said:
What are your thoughts on serious or professional musicians using Squire products? I'm in a serious band and I'm looking at buying a Squire Vintage Modified Tele Bass but I have a sort of negative view of Squire. So what do you all think of Squire?
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Thoughts on Squire Basses for Professional Musicians?

Nothing wrong with them.
Like with every other manufacturers products , there are good ones and there are not so good ones.(Good= a tone you like, and an instrument that is comfortable to play)
 
#107
Feral Feline said:
Ohhh, I am so going to use that! Made me laugh out loud. FENDRE

It's not just the Squiers I love, it's any budget or beat up old hunk-of-junk that a pro may be using such as a vintage Kay, Danelectro, Sears, Teisco, Greco [insert odd budget brand here] – the jankier the better.
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I'm telling you guys, if you're into inexpensive stuff that's truly awesome, you need to check out the Modern Player Jazz basses. If you want a $500 bass with Fender written on it, but sounds like a suped up Jaco bass with full humbucking.... And it becomes even more magnificent when you take the frets out - it'll blow your ears off with a totally pi$$ed-off gunshot tone when plucked over the bridge PU.

As for the Squiers (spelling?), I'm also conditioned by my experience with them 20-30 years ago. But if the Modern Player is any judge on today's quality level on the exploited-labor imports, they're probably massively improved and good instruments for the money these days too.

LS
 
#109
TomB said:
Are you serious? Has anyone actually asked you not to play a certain bass because they were paying you? In 45 years of pro work in every kind of setting that's never happened to me. ...but I never owned a Squier, either (I have used a Silvertone Dano in the studio ;)). I did get teased once for the color of my burgundy mist Moon JB-5. That ended quickly once they heard it. I like to think I get hired for my output, not my instruments.
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I played a show with my 2012 Squier VM fretless and the people running to the stage telling me that Pink Floyds Hey You came to life was other musicians, they couldn't care less that it was played on a Squier.....
 
#110
Clef_de_fa said:
To me Fender shoot themselves in the foot when they started offereing different price point for the exact same bass, dilluing their quality. When your lowest and highest look the same, play the same and almost sound the same ... hard to justify a MIA ... which isn't the case of Ibanez. Their lower model will have a hard plastic finish while they very expensive model will have fancy woods and overall better construction.
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The good thing about Squier is that it's a bass that was built using the specifications of a Fender, they don't want to run people away from there instruments so they build them using a cheaper labor source (even the Duncan Designed pick-ups are built to the same specifications) to cut costs and introduce people to the product line....then it's your choice to move into a MIM or MIA if your would like, or you can modify your Squier with different pick-ups, tuners, or bridges to adjust it to the sound your searching!
 
#115
Guys who rock roundwound strings and play hard vs light touch on high tension flats probably have their action set at a level which which makes having a perfect neck irrelevant so a Squier or SX works great.

If you play high tension flats with extreme low action then a more expensive neck is helpful.

I love coffee table bodies but am in the camp that says the wood does not have that big an impact on the tone of a solid body electric.
 
#118
TomB said:
Are you serious? Has anyone actually asked you not to play a certain bass because they were paying you? In 45 years of pro work in every kind of setting that's never happened to me. ...but I never owned a Squier, either (I have used a Silvertone Dano in the studio ;)). I did get teased once for the color of my burgundy mist Moon JB-5. That ended quickly once they heard it. I like to think I get hired for my output, not my instruments.
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I only play volunteer gigs so if they don't like my bass they can do do without me! But other people here report that they are told to use another bass or are denied the gig when they show up with a Squier. It seems to be especially common on recording work where the studio's old Precision is the only bass the producer wants to record and in that case it would not matter how expensive or well regarded the bass you came in with was. I cannot attest to the veracity of any of these claims but there are enough of them that it seems unlikely that none of them are true. I am however familiar with the concept of working for others for pay and in general the person who signs the paycheck gets their way. As I said, I would not worry about it until it happens and then it depends on the circumstances. Are you saying that you would refuse a great gig simply because someone wanted you to play a different bass? I would not refuse a great engineering job because the company used Mentor instead of Cadence design software. I'd say great, when can I start!

By the way, it is certainly possible that I will buy a Squier some day so if anyone gets "Squire by Fendre" decals set up at a custom decal shop please let me know. I want some too!!

Ken
 
#119
blues_bassist said:
What are your thoughts on serious or professional musicians using Squire products? I'm in a serious band and I'm looking at buying a Squire Vintage Modified Tele Bass but I have a sort of negative view of Squire. So what do you all think of Squire?
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Dixie Dave is a professional musician and he rocks the hell out of a Squier!

If it bothers you that much, a sheet of sand paper isn't too expensive.
 
#120
khutch said:
I only play volunteer gigs so if they don't like my bass they can do do without me! But other people here report that they are told to use another bass or are denied the gig when they show up with a Squier. It seems to be especially common on recording work where the studio's old Precision is the only bass the producer wants to record and in that case it would not matter how expensive or well regarded the bass you came in with was. I cannot attest to the veracity of any of these claims but there are enough of them that it seems unlikely that none of them are true. I am however familiar with the concept of working for others for pay and in general the person who signs the paycheck gets their way. As I said, I would not worry about it until it happens and then it depends on the circumstances. Are you saying that you would refuse a great gig simply because someone wanted you to play a different bass? I would not refuse a great engineering job because the company used Mentor instead of Cadence design software. I'd say great, when can I start!

Ken
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Wow! Thanks for this post.
 

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