Thunderbird Club

[MCF]

That original post motivated me to look up the tab and work on it. Still struggling a bit on timing.

It’ll come. A very relaxing song to play along to.

 

[PhR75]

Kara, the Firebirds also have mini hum buckers. I guess to be different to the Les Paul & SG etc.

But the Firebird pickups aren't minihumbuckers either:
https://humbuckersoup.com/mini-humbucker-versus-firebird/

 

[MCF]

LOL - I’ll have to think about that one.

What’s there to think about?

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

A friend of mine got the home version of the B3 (B?) for free on Craigs List (I helped him retrieve it) - the defining sound of the '60s-early '70s.

speaking of Hammonds….too many tubeless tuesdays gone by…

 

[dagrev]

But the Firebird pickups aren't minihumbuckers either:
Mini Humbucker Versus Firebird Guitar Pickups: What’s the Difference?

 

[TBird1958]

I'm fairly young, by wtvr standard that is, however, being around music since i was born (my dad being the musician with all his classic vinyls such as Bowie, T-Rex, Cheap Trick, etc), & even though i first saw the 1974-75 san Francisco KISS live show (on tv) when i was 3-4 years old, when i say Dee Dee Ramone play (through DVD documentary) when i was 6-7, that's who got me into diving into playing bass (& subsequently playing Precisions). His sheer energy was something to behold. After many years of practice from their first album to the Live shows, my wrist has gotten used to the fast downpicking without breaking a sweat or needing to stop after 4 live songs. I'm a punk; in roots, style & music. Other bassists have had some influence on my writing & playing too, but Dee Dee got me into actively playing bass.

I'm mostly a fingerstyle player although I also play with a pick and I was always fascinated and a little jealous at his strength with a pick. TBird1958 is also a very strong pickstyle player, check out her video from a day or two ago (maybe 300 pages back )

It's really difficult to consistently downstroke an entire song, much less a set. At one point I was reasonably good for a song or two, I'd have to put some time back into it today because I can't do it like this anymore. I've heard it said the one should be able to upstroke/downstroke with the same intensity/speed etc., I can't get it to sound the same, here I'm flogging the E string hard, it was about 95 degrees and excessively humid this day. Warning, if you like the dull thump of flats this not for you, big, clanky angry piano on a '76.

 

[dagrev]

It's really difficult to consistently downstroke an entire song, much less a set....I've heard it said the one should be able to upstroke/downstroke with the same intensity/speed...

Yes it is. Constantly doing that requires more work and is tiring for me. Might look better but not functional for long. Slower songs I might if in the mood. But if I needed speed I definitely did upstroke and downstroke and wasn't worn out by wasting a movement with no effect.

 

[Goatrope]

It's really difficult to consistently downstroke an entire song, much less a set. At one point I was reasonably good for a song or two, I'd have to put some time back into it today because I can't do it like this anymore. I've heard it said the one should be able to upstroke/downstroke with the same intensity/speed etc., I can't get it to sound the same, here I'm flogging the E string hard, it was about 95 degrees and excessively humid this day. Warning, if you like the dull thump of flats this not for you, big, clanky angry piano on a '76.

B.C.A.P. For the WIN!

 

[MCF]

I’m sure others with more in-depth knowledge of the original Tbird pickups will chime in with good info. All I

It's really difficult to consistently downstroke an entire song, much less a set. At one point I was reasonably good for a song or two, I'd have to put some time back into it today because I can't do it like this anymore. I've heard it said the one should be able to upstroke/downstroke with the same intensity/speed etc., I can't get it to sound the same, here I'm flogging the E string hard, it was about 95 degrees and excessively humid this day. Warning, if you like the dull thump of flats this not for you, big, clanky angry piano on a '76.

Great tone. Is that straight into the GK?

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

Yes it is. Constantly doing that requires more work and is tiring for me. Might look better but not functional for long. Slower songs I might if in the mood. But if I needed speed I definitely did upstroke and downstroke and wasn't worn out by wasting a movement with no effect.

yeah, I use downstrokes when I want to alter the rhythmic into a more staccato ostinato and a less pillowy andante…… for some stuff, up/down is the only way….

 

[GonePlaid]

I'm going to get a pic of the 21 NR Burgundy and Inverness Green, next to the Embassy Burgundy, and Wanderlust Green.

I figured out how to use my camera.

First impressions are the Burgundy's are pretty similar, but the Greens are miles and miles apart....

And yet they have the same name

 

[TBird1958]

Great tone. Is that straight into the GK?

At that point we were playing a lot and I was using many different Birds so I used a Line 6 bass Pod live pedal set, it allowed me to set the amp up and leave it alone (other than volume) and create a preset patch for each of my basses. It was quite handy and kept things pretty simple. I could take multiple basses to a show and not worry about their differing outputs, I still have it tho I'm not presently using it around the house.

 

[GonePlaid]

yeah, I use downstrokes when I want to alter the rhythmic into a more staccato less pillowy andante or ostinato…… for some stuff however, up/down strokes are indispensable……

 

[bobyoung53]

No, and that innocence is long gone and will never happen again. It's why it can't fully be explained to people who have never experienced this. I sincerely wish it was possible to translate, but some things can only be imagined in retrospect. If one allows themself to be completely open to the 'intent' of music of a specific genre/era... you can at least come close to understanding where it was coming from.

Yup, I've tried to explain it to people who weren't there and it's just about impossible, as you say, you had to have been there. I call it the end of my innocence. I had been exposed to rock & roll before through what I call my Rock & Roll aunt, she's about 10 years older than me and had a nice Webcor Hifi and used to buy a lot of singles, anything from Chuck Berry, Huey "piano" Smith and The Clowns but more of the early 60's singers such as Fabian, Frankie Avalon, Bobby Rydell, etc, but also The Everly Brothers who were my first musical love. But I still really like that early 60's stuff that everyone thinks is cheese . But the Beatles just blew all that away. I can remember Chuck having a couple more hits, Roy Orbison a couple more until his comeback in the Traveling Wilburys, Everly's a few etc. I still love British Invasion too and got my EB-2.

One of their own composed Everly Brothers' post Beatles hits:

It hit #31

 

[MCF]

At that point we were playing a lot and I was using many different Birds so I used a Line 6 bass Pod live pedal set, it allowed me to set the amp up and leave it alone (other than volume) and create a preset patch for each of my basses. It was quite handy and kept things pretty simple. I could take multiple basses to a show and not worry about their differing outputs, I still have it tho I'm not presently using it around the house.

Thanks!

 

[MCF]

yeah, I use downstrokes when I want to alter the rhythmic into a more staccato less pillowy andante or ostinato…… for some stuff however, up/down strokes are indispensable……

Great playing. And I really like like the vocal on that one.

 

[WillyW]

did anyone tell the dude with the IG 21 NR in the classifieds, that the claw he had installed is set too far back?

 

[dagrev]

yeah, I use downstrokes when I want to alter the rhythmic into a more staccato less pillowy andante or ostinato…… for some stuff however, up/down strokes are indispensable……

I get a nice short staccato - almost muted note by slowly dragging the pick or dragging it back to the string. I never really thought about what I'm doing, it just seems natural and works well for me. I'll have to try to pay attention when I do that next time to actually figure out what I'm doing. Don't where or when I started doing that. I know Larry Junstrom (Skynyrd's first bassist and then .38 Special) had a very tight up and down, so I'm guessing I absorbed something of what he was doing and took it a little farther.

Dig the song BTW.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

Great playing. And I really like like the vocal on that one.

Thx M.

 

[dagrev]

did anyone tell the dude with the IG 21 NR in the classifieds, that the claw he had installed is set too far back?

Humm. I def like the looks of The Claw and the cover as well. When I get super bored and can't find anything to do I might do that.