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Thunderbird Club

You have nothing to worry anout in the T-Bird Club. We will not beat you with anything stiffer than a Butt Bow or a wet noodle depending on the particular member at that particular moment in time. Lol if you like the way a Bird looks but sint care so much for the pups then by all means change them, you have only yourself to please.

Have you considered the Epiphone Clasic Pro? That would only set you back about $500 usd.

If you are looking for a different tone, trying to get away from the t-bird aound you might not want Lull, Loller or Thunderbucker. You could install EMG soapbars with either a J or P as that is what you said you were looking for. Of course you also said you fell in love with Mike Lulls pups. If I were foing to search for a lull pup I would call Mike and talk to them about what they can/willing to do. If they want an e-mail they will tell you.

Good luck on you hunt for tone, when your bird finds you come on back, show pictures(we all love to see each others birds) then join in on our fun club. (Hope I was helpful).
@RikiP the suggestion for an Epiphone classic pro is a good one, identical construction to the Gibson and the same pickups, (if you're pulling them out sell them to me :thumbsup:) the only real difference is the finish, poly on the Epi and nitro on the Gibby but it's a class guitar by any standards

No one will give you grief in the Thunderbird club if you prefer the sound of jazz pups, we'll just think your weird and get @GBassNorth to do the proverbial beating with that butt bow, we have to allow him these little indulgences as it keeps him happy
 
Very very nice
That's exactly the colour I have in mind, is that just clear nitro over the top of stained Mahogany or are there some red coats in there too?

Just clear over red stain, no toner coats.

This is natural Honduras mahogany with a purplish toner only, same as my '64 TBird II, I call it sunrise sunburst. Notice how light the natural Honduras is.





The lighter Honduras mahogany is in color the lighter it is in weight. Early Gibsons used lighter color/weight mahogany. In the late 60s everything got heavier as the good mahogany became scarce and expensive . We call my buddy's '69 Les Paul Custom 'The Barge'.
 
Just clear over red stain, no toner coats.

This is natural Honduras mahogany with a purplish toner only, same as my '64 TBird II, I call it sunrise sunburst. Notice how light the natural Honduras is.

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The lighter Honduras mahogany is in color the lighter it is in weight. Early Gibsons used lighter color/weight mahogany. In the late 60s everything got heavier as the good mahogany became scarce and expensive . We call my buddy's '69 Les Paul Custom 'The Barge'.
Nice one, thank you.

I don't think we can get Honduras over here, Brazilian is our best bet. I've not made much from Mahogany over the years, stuck to home grown, native American and the more expensive exotics, staining is a new experience for me,
 
Just clear over red stain, no toner coats.

This is natural Honduras mahogany with a purplish toner only, same as my '64 TBird II, I call it sunrise sunburst. Notice how light the natural Honduras is.

ExplorerBird_zps4be06bbe.jpg


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The lighter Honduras mahogany is in color the lighter it is in weight. Early Gibsons used lighter color/weight mahogany. In the late 60s everything got heavier as the good mahogany became scarce and expensive . We call my buddy's '69 Les Paul Custom 'The Barge'.

Explorers have always had a fascination for me- not surprising I guess I love Flying Vs, TBirds and RDs.
Never saw a Gibson bass version that really said "it" to me though, except maybe the stripey ones they did years ago.
The chromed out pics above definitely say "it" to me.
 
Hi guys. A fellow young bass player here.
I would like to have some question and advice.
I'm so mesmerized by the beauty of Thunderbird. I'm truly a fan of it, but only the look... Although i think the '64 Thunderbird sounds pretty good, i don't really like the sound of the modern Thunderbird, it's like just disappear in the mix. I like the more stand out clear sound, like Jazz or P-Bass.
Thunderbird fans can judge me because i don't like it's sound, and other bass fans can judge me because i care so much about appearance...
So i was doing research about how can i push the balance of the Thunderbird sound to a Jazz bass sound.
Then i found Mike Lull's work and oh man, what has he done?
He has created THE BEAST!
My mind is just blown away of it's greatness.
One of my favorite video.
But...
I don't have ~4000 USD for sure. I was thinking and i thought i will buy an used Gibson Thunderbird for 1000~1200 USD and i upgrade it with Lull's pickups.
My questions.
- Does the pickups fit to a modern Gibson's body?
- With the new pickups, how near can i get the sound to Lull's T-bird? Cause the body is pretty different (bridge, bolt-on neck, wood type etc.) Or it will be more sound like '64s? I couldn't find any sound or video source about the pickups only.
- Do i have to take contact in email or phone with Lull? I can't see the pickups on web shops anywhere.
- How much does it cost?
- What's about other "vintage sound" pickups maker like Lollar or Thunderbucker?

Appreciate all your help.


I am an endorsing artist for Mike Lull's Thunderbird pickups, I have 2 Gibson 'Birds with Lull pickups plus a Lull 'Bird, so I've done what you're asking about twice.
To answer your questions....
Yes, Lull pickups will fit a modern (Post 1988) Gibson. In fact you should fill most of the pup routs with dense foam or wood or both as Lull pickups are much shallower than Gibson TB Plus. I'd suggest the metal bezels and the black spacer pieces to surround them as the new pups will be very close to the surface of the bass.
The pickups are the major part of your second question as there is not a tonal contribution that I can hear coming from the bridge, or woods assuming we're talking about good Mahogany. The neck construction uses threaded inserts and is far better and different than say a 7ender, it's much closer to sounding like a neck thru construction bass.

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Mike's pickups are reproductions of a specific Gibson '64 Thunderbird, it had 9K bridge and 8k neck pups and had "the sound", Mike's owned many Thunderbirds and knew what he wanted when having these made. Initially, Jason Lollar was approached to make them and he decided against doing it, his offering came along quite a bit later. Mike then went to TV Jones and later when Jones couldn't keep up with demand Seymour Duncan. As reproductions they're very accurate, even the covers are done by the same manufacturer Gibson used.
Thunderbucker Ranch offers excellent reproductions as well, their catalog includes several variations based on Gibson production throughout the '60s. Manufacturing process at the time was not so refined and as a result many pickups were overwound which created a tonally different pickup with a hotter more overdriven sound. Thunderbucker Ranch has recreated these variations which many of the guys here really like.
In looking for a suitable Gibson 'Bird I'd highly recommend finding an early re-issue from 1988 thru may '92 or so, the woodwork on them is reasonably nice and the bridge sits down on the bass much better. To my knowledge these years aren't considered highly collectable except for certain colors like Classic White so you should find one in your price with some patience.

Me and my '89 Thunderbird modified with Lull pickups, they're clear, warm and have just the right clank and growl for me.

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I am an endorsing artist for Mike Lull's Thunderbird pickups, I have 2 Gibson 'Birds with Lull pickups plus a Lull 'Bird, so I've done what you're asking about twice.
To answer your questions....
Yes, Lull pickups will fit a modern (Post 1988) Gibson. In fact you should fill most of the pup routs with dense foam or wood or both as Lull pickups are much shallower than Gibson TB Plus. I'd suggest the metal bezels and the black spacer pieces to surround them as the new pups will be very close to the surface of the bass.
The pickups are the major part of your second question as there is not a tonal contribution that I can hear coming from the bridge, or woods assuming we're talking about good Mahogany. The neck construction uses threaded inserts and is far better and different than say a 7ender, it's much closer to sounding like a neck thru construction bass.

Contact the office by phone or email, Pacific time [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

Mike's pickups are reproductions of a specific Gibson '64 Thunderbird, it had 9K bridge and 8k neck pups and had "the sound", Mike's owned many Thunderbirds and knew what he wanted when having these made. Initially, Jason Lollar was approached to make them and he decided against doing it, his offering came along quite a bit later. Mike then went to TV Jones and later when Jones couldn't keep up with demand Seymour Duncan. As reproductions they're very accurate, even the covers are done by the same manufacturer Gibson used.
Thunderbucker Ranch offers excellent reproductions as well, their catalog includes several variations based on Gibson production throughout the '60s. Manufacturing process at the time was not so refined and as a result many pickups were overwound which created a tonally different pickup with a hotter more overdriven sound. Thunderbucker Ranch has recreated these variations which many of the guys here really like.
In looking for a suitable Gibson 'Bird I'd highly recommend finding an early re-issue from 1988 thru may '92 or so, the woodwork on them is reasonably nice and the bridge sits down on the bass much better. To my knowledge these years aren't considered highly collectable except for certain colors like Classic White so you should find one in your price with some patience.

Me and my '89 Thunderbird modified with Lull pickups, they're clear, warm and have just the right clank and growl for me.

2016halloween_zpsedtt12j6.jpg
Do we need to go through Lull directly for his pups?

This maybe the route I go. Found a solid chunk of mahogany today big enough for a Bird body
 
Do we need to go through Lull directly for his pups?

This maybe the route I go. Found a solid chunk of mahogany today big enough for a Bird body

Yes, I'd call him if you have questions. You should actually be able to order them thru his dealers as well, though they may not have tried to, they can.
 
Have you considered the Epiphone Clasic Pro? That would only set you back about $500 usd.

@RikiP the suggestion for an Epiphone classic pro is a good one, identical construction to the Gibson and the same pickups, (if you're pulling them out sell them to me :thumbsup:) the only real difference is the finish, poly on the Epi and nitro on the Gibby but it's a class guitar by any standards

My problem with Epiphone is that i want a good body as possible. (Somewhere i read before that Epiphone's wood are not so finely selected like Gibson's. Might be just some marketing ********?) The pickups are same with Gibson right?
Even so Epiphone sounds little more buzzy and distorted for me in this comparision.
Although it's sounds better for slap, i'm afraid it will effect the sound with new pickups too.

You might try the 2015 with core tapped pickups. There are still new ones floating around in stores. Great bass. Lots of versatility in tones.

Yeah i think it sounds nice and I probably would have bought it already, but their finish option is only Sunburst... I need "Glossy" Black or Classic White. I'm not interested in other ones... At this high price, i wanna get what i want.

Mike then went to TV Jones and later when Jones couldn't keep up with demand Seymour Duncan. As reproductions they're very accurate, even the covers are done by the same manufacturer Gibson used.

Seymour Duncan? U mean this is the same as Lull?

The pickups are the major part of your second question as there is not a tonal contribution that I can hear coming from the bridge, or woods assuming we're talking about good Mahogany.

Hm... I mean if i can get out the sound like Invalid Link Removed only by changing the pickups, i'm pretty much a happy guy.
 
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Hi guys. A fellow young bass player here.
I would like to have some question and advice.
I'm so mesmerized by the beauty of Thunderbird. I'm truly a fan of it, but only the look... Although i think the '64 Thunderbird sounds pretty good, i don't really like the sound of the modern Thunderbird, it's like just disappear in the mix. I like the more stand out clear sound, like Jazz or P-Bass.
Thunderbird fans can judge me because i don't like it's sound, and other bass fans can judge me because i care so much about appearance...
So i was doing research about how can i push the balance of the Thunderbird sound to a Jazz bass sound.
Then i found Mike Lull's work and oh man, what has he done?
He has created THE BEAST!
My mind is just blown away of it's greatness.
One of my favorite video.
But...
I don't have ~4000 USD for sure. I was thinking and i thought i will buy an used Gibson Thunderbird for 1000~1200 USD and i upgrade it with Lull's pickups.
My questions.
- Does the pickups fit to a modern Gibson's body?
- With the new pickups, how near can i get the sound to Lull's T-bird? Cause the body is pretty different (bridge, bolt-on neck, wood type etc.) Or it will be more sound like '64s? I couldn't find any sound or video source about the pickups only.
- Do i have to take contact in email or phone with Lull? I can't see the pickups on web shops anywhere.
- How much does it cost?
- What's about other "vintage sound" pickups maker like Lollar or Thunderbucker?

Appreciate all your help.
Not sure if anyone answered BUT I am in the same boat as you, I prefer the P&J sound so I switched to emg TBP & TBJ which are P&j in Gibson size housings. You would need to dremmel out the route some to make em fit an epiphone which I have done.