Gaolee
Official leathers tester and crash dummy
Some of us still do that more or less. Well less now. I'm getting used to having shiny boxes to step on.
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Thunderbird Club
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You make me sound less of a dinosaur
I still can't wrap my head around using effects on bass. I spent a LOT of time and money to get it to sound the way I wanted as it is!
Haji
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Some people find it easier to get the sound they want adjusting from a "straight up" starting point. It's not right or wrong, it's just how some people's brains work. It takes a little while to learn to adjust with ears before eyes...which is really just another way, rather than "the" way.
Haji
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Funny thing about effects: soon as I put them in the band situation they just disappear under the drums and guitar. I still wanna add a chorus for a couple songs, but that's a punch in/punch out thing. My distortion (MXR M85) stays on all the time, but with the distortion cranked way back to more of an overdrive, with a lot of dry signal coming through.
Yeah I get that. It's the only reason I can see for all 'what's flat' questions.
That and that the tone controls don't work how people think they should.
No, no - gain as well.
Out of three pedals (not counting the tuner) there's only one that's on. I could do without it, but it helps get my sound the way I want it, and could be regarded more as 'tone enhancement', ie it's subtle enough that most people - including many bass players - wouldn't notice it as an effect at all.
Having a (chopping) board and power supply does lower the threshold for pedal proliferation though. A power supply is better than having dead 9V batteries end up in landfill.
Thanks for that Kat.i don't understand it though - more reading for me.Approximate only, but this is the sort of response you might expect with the passive tone controls on a Fender amp.
green = mid @ 100%, bass and treble @ 0%
orange = mid and bass @ 100%, treble @ 0%
red = everything @ 100%
Prob doesn't help that I'm red-green colour blind. (I can only see 2 lines).
Sorry about that. If you have windows, download the TSC, set the colour to something you can use and have a play. You will see how the peaks and troughs are not fixed, but shift as you change the different controls.p - it's organic man!
Gaolee
Official leathers tester and crash dummy
Gotta be useful for something, y'know. I'm also a pretty good crash test dummy.You make me sound less of a dinosaur
Gaolee
Official leathers tester and crash dummy
It would be interesting to find some kind of utility that would allow a computer to analyze the wave forms of an input from a microphone. It wouldn't be a pure analysis, because microphones have their own response curves, but it would be interesting anyway. The utility would essentially be an oscilloscope, I guess.
I can get an slightly overdriven sound out of my amp's pre, but I'm pretty sure it would kill it in the long run. So I first bought a big muff, but it sounds like underwater farts, last week I bought an aguilar pedal and I'm quite content. Usually I enjoy the sounds my amp produces, but sometimes I need a tad more.
Not starting an effects collection, though, because chorus and such are for guitarists imo.
Only other stuff I got is a P90, because Phil Lynott might've used it on "Dancing in the moonlight". I barely use it, just doesn't sound right.
The bassline on Bowie's Heroes was tracked with chorus/flanging and Barry Adamson of Magazine used chorus/flanging to great effect, but it is something best used with restraint and moderation.
Gaolee
Official leathers tester and crash dummy
I play drums with a bass player who uses a bass synth sometimes. It sounds completely outrageous, in a 1980s kind of way. But, he's a Bumper player. I haven't converted him yet.
Has anybody played around with or heard the IK Modo Bass software? I realize that it kind of defeats the purpose for us bass players. But they argue that it "physically models" bass playing (including a Thunderbird): Invalid Link Removed
I was curious as to what "physically modeling" translates to in terms of the realism that they suggest. @Gaolee's mention of an 80s sounding keyboard bass made me think of this; although, this software would only seem to have application to recording (I "think" - but maybe a keyboard player could midi it live?).
I was curious as to what "physically modeling" translates to in terms of the realism that they suggest. @Gaolee's mention of an 80s sounding keyboard bass made me think of this; although, this software would only seem to have application to recording (I "think" - but maybe a keyboard player could midi it live?).
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Enlighten me on what bumper means. I am assuming fender (7ender), funny the fender guys don't dont do the 7 thing, a Canadian crossed 7 would be almost perfect.
Personally I don't need to be converted to anything, I'm equal opportunity.
Personally I don't need to be converted to anything, I'm equal opportunity.
I didn't get it at first either. Bumper as in fender on a car.
Then I call you all out.
A bumper on a car is not the same as a fender. Car 101! The bumper is the thing in the front and back, we all know what the bumpers on a car are so I shouldn't have to explain. The fenders are the body parts on the side over the front wheels, the hood is between the fenders and behind the front bumper for instance.
A metaphoric fail on whoever started that and those who continued the trend.
Soap box off. I won't go any further than simply explaining that fender and bumper are 2 separate parts of the car, not synonymous unless a degree of irony was intended, and @Stevis explanation did not explain that part.
I probably should have deferred that to the more veteran members of the TB club. That was my inference. Although, there are several Fender and Squier owners on the list, I think "Bumper" is a playful jab at the hegemony of Fender players and opinions in the Gen-Pop (all other lists) on Talkbass. Again, me and my user-list pith helmet could be wrong here. @kat888, @Gaolee, Bueller, can you help a brother out here?
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In Ben Stein voice: "Bueller? ... Bueller? ... Bueller?"
