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Thunderbird Club

Geo bringing it.

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Ahem! But I’m serious. What is the safest ways to ream the holes?


Thanks. Ouch. It looks like standard size works for 3/8. But for 1/2 you would need to buy the large one. Gotta love StewMac.

I got this for the Sadowsky pre-amp upgrade on my Contemporary Jazz:

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....but it only works up to 1/2", so wouldn't work for a 14mm hole. Shouldn't be hard to find something comparable that would.....

Kara - thx for posting those! Never heard of them before but they make a lot of sense and solve my biggest gripe about most good tuners. I wonder how they compare to ultra lights in weight?

Based on Hipshot's info, a standard 3/8" y-key is 1.49oz (42g) for the USA version, 1.97oz (?g) for the licensed one. Graphtech lists 1.86 (53g) - similar to comparable Schallers, which are listed at 52g.

edit: iirc, the Epi tuners that I've weighed (from my CP) came in at 59g......


Those look good, they are too expensive for me though...

It's not a bad price for four, imo - about $90 cheaper than USA Hipshots, about $20 more than the licensed ones, and ~$15-ish cheaper than Schallers, depending on the exchange rate for Euros, I guess? (prices are somewhat dependent on color, I was looking at the available black options)




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I could have probably been more specific. The Eppi VP tuners are just fine, no issues. My complaint is with the run of the mill Eppi IV and Eppi Goth tuners. I’ve played a bunch, and own a few. Every single one of them had crap tuners to varying degrees. Sometimes just one of the four tuners is sloppy, sometimes it’s all four. The issue is entirely too much backlash in the gears (gear mesh gap tolerance is too big). It makes for very imprecise tuners. That said, every single one of the crap tuners still holds tune and does not slip. It’s just the slop and complete lack of precision when adjusting the tuner that I’m not fond of. They work, therefore won’t be replaced until they fail or until I decide to step on stage with them.
I assumed you were talking about other Epi tuners. One of the tuners on the white VP is a little rough feeling and has a little more resistance as you tune up. They are not a precise as what is on either newer Gibson, so not perfect, but OK for what they are and they do the job. I had an late 90s (I think that's right), Geddy Lee Jazz and those tuners were just crap and had the problems that several have voiced. I replaced those with the real Fender tuners from my white '78 Pbass. (I replaced all the hardware to the Gold that was used on the Elite Precisions.)

I love the DaVinci tuners that Kara posted. Very cool, like looking at an open pocket watch. I always thought "Banjo" style tuners would be cool on a Thunderbird as was present on some Firebirds. They would likely would have been too large given the requirements for a bass tuner.
 
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These are really the last decent videos of me playing from Mass in 2018 at a jam before the pandemic, I may have posted one of these here before. I used to fill in for the house bassist, the guitarist and vocalist were the featured guests this week and I was a fill in. I've played with all these guys in different bands although not together like this before. A couple of blues covers.

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:thumbsup: Good stuff!
 
I always thought "Banjo" style tuners would be cool on a Thunderbird as was present on some Firebirds. They would likely would have been too large given the requirements for a bass tuner.
I was looking at the Kluson banjo/bass tuners for my Explorer if I go headless. There's a guy on TB that built a headless EB and mounted those tuners behind the bridge. He says they work well.
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