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Thunderbird Club

shouldn’t be……smoking players….seeing such young players (all with music doctorates) gives some hope for the future of live music imho….all multi instrumentalists….she tears it up on fiddle…
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:thumbsup: Some phenomenal players in BG, and are hardly are known outside of that community. Most at festivals will never be famous but many are as great at their instrument as any. And the great vocal harmonies on top of that! No show--just play!
 
*Disclaimer. The opinions expressed here are my own. They do not reflect those of other members of this club.

I finally got the new to me ‘05 Studio set up, cleaned and polished. It took freaking forever because the previous owner or owners had no clue.

This was a SF Bay Area Craigslist find that Dave noticed and offered to check out. My instructions were to buy it unless there was something obvious that couldn’t be corrected. It was a very good deal at $1K, with case. And with no tax or shipping charge.

I stared work on it on Friday. Removed completely dead rounds that were on it and tossed them. Cleaned and polished the frets, cleaned and oiled the fretboard and made sure frets were sound. They are. No high or loose frets. No noticeable wear. I can’t tell if they have ever been leveled or crowned. Fret end work is immaculate.
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Opened the control cavity. I have no clues if this is how it came from Gibson or if it had been modified. Any thoughts?
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I popped the TBird Plus pups. I assume this is how they came from Gibson. Does anyone know differently? Anyway, they sound AMAZING! Ken would love them.

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Restrung with Dunlop MM Stainless Steel Superbrights. I was going to use 50-105 SIT Power Steels that I ordered but couldn’t find. They came when I was at the GTG. My wife put them somewhere, but couldn’t remember where. Turned out to be a blessing in disguise. After installing them, it was obvious how dead the old strings were. I was a bit concerned there may have been a tone pot issue, put new strings put that concern to rest.

Then the “fun” began. Look at how the saddles were placed on the. Bridge. And they were set at weird heights. Whoever messed with it was an idiot. And I’m trying to be nice. And the neck was nowhere near straight, but the TR works perfectly so that issue was easily rectified.
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Notice that it’s a Badass II bridge. That is not what these basses came with. While the stock bridge was not a three point, it was a Gibson version of the 7ender 5 screw mount high mass style bridge. And this bass would have come with a chrome, not black, bridge. Putting the Badass on this Bird was a total fail. Whoever installed it on this Thunderbird is a complete moron. The Badass was originally designed for 7ender string through body applications. The holes in this bridge were not drilled wide enough for a common set of 45-105s with thick end windings at the ball ends to pass through easily. Again, what an idiot. The bass was “chorusy” before I started working on it. I’m not surprised given that the old strings were bound and twisted. Ugh.

So the obvious solution to me was to replace the stupid Badass bridge with a chrome Babicz 5 screw mount bridge. But wait. The idiot who installed it over tightened the screws. This thing won’t come off. And even if it did, the indentations made by the oversized Badass bridge would be visible.

So realizing that the bridge stays, I worked to file the old holes using the old strings. It was slow going. But I got enough paint and metal removed from the holes to make it work. It took about two hours to get this accomplished.

The bridge is a POS. I will never buy one. .050 hex key is required. Gibson multi-tool to the rescue for that fail. It took forever to get the height and intonation set. About two hours yesterday of back and forth adjustments and another half hour today.

At the end of the day, it’s a great Thunderbird. Beautiful in fact. And it sounds and now plays awesome. But man, it was a project getting it to fly right again.

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*Disclaimer. The opinions expressed here are my own. They do not reflect those of other members of this club.

I finally got the new to me ‘05 Studio set up, cleaned and polished. It took freaking forever because the previous owner or owners had no clue.

This was a SF Bay Area Craigslist find that Dave noticed and offered to check out. My instructions were to buy it unless there was something obvious that couldn’t be corrected. It was a very good deal at $1K, with case. And with no tax or shipping charge.

I stared work on it on Friday. Removed completely dead rounds that were on it and tossed them. Cleaned and polished the frets, cleaned and oiled the fretboard and made sure frets were sound. They are. No high or loose frets. No noticeable wear. I can’t tell if they have ever been leveled or crowned. Fret end work is immaculate.
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Opened the control cavity. I have no clues if this is how it came from Gibson or if it had been modified. Any thoughts?
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I popped the TBird Plus pups. I assume this is how they came from Gibson. Does anyone know differently? Anyway, they sound AMAZING! Ken would love them.

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Restrung with Dunlop MM Stainless Steel Superbrights. I was going to use 50-105 SIT Power Steels that I ordered but couldn’t find. They came when I was at the GTG. My wife put them somewhere, but couldn’t remember where. Tuned out to be a blessing in disguise. After installing them, it was obvious how dead the old strings were. I was a bit concerned there may have been a tone pot issue, put new strings put that concern to rest.

Then the “fun” began. Look at how the saddles were placed on the. Bridge. And they were set at weird heights. Whoever messed with it was an idiot. And I’m trying to be nice. And the neck was nowhere near straight, but the TR works perfectly so that issue was easily rectified.
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Notice that it’s a Badass II bridge. That is not what these basses came with. While the stock bridge was not a three point, it was a Gibson version of the 7ender 5 screw mount high mass style bridge. And this bass would have come with a chrome, not black, bridge. Putting the Badass on this Bird was a total fail. Whoever installed it on this Thunderbird is a complete moron. The Badass was originally designed for 7ender string through body applications. The holes in this bridge were not drilled wide enough for a common set of 45-105s with thick end windings at the ball ends to pass through easily. Again, what an idiot. The bass was “chorusy” before I started working on it. I’m not surprised given that the old strings were bound and twisted. Ugh.

So the obvious solution to me was to replace the stupid Badass bridge with a chrome Babicz 5 screw mount bridge. But wait. The idiot who installed it over tightened the screws. This thing won’t come off. And even if it did, the indentations made by the oversized Badass bridge would be visible.

So realizing that the bridge stays, I worked to file the old holes using the old strings. It was slow going. But I got enough paint and metal removed from the holes to make it work. It took about two hours to get this accomplished.

The bridge is a POS. I will never buy one. .050 hex key is required. Gibson multi-tool to the rescue for that fail. It took forever to get the height and intonation set. About two hours yesterday of back and forth adjustments and another half hour today.

At the end of the day, it’s a great Thunderbird. Beautiful in fact. And it sounds and now plays awesome. But man, it was a project getting it to fly right again.

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There was a lot of orange peel in that finish. What did you use for polish as it looks fantastic now! Great work. Hope you still feel it was a good purchase.
 
Sorry to hear your amp died. I wouldn't think twice about getting a 400RB. I was gonna suggest that. I think tonally it's the same as the 800RB, just no bi-amping.

Here's a post from a while back from Bob Gallien about pushing these amps.

Gallien Krueger Club. GK Rules !

Pretty much, I have a mk II 90's 400RB, & i've played 800rbs in the past. Somehow, i prefer the 400rb over the 800rb (even when its bi-amped).
 
No worries! Class D amps seem to be hard to repair other than replacing whole modules.
I get big fat tones out of the D800+ and MB200. I found the Ampeg PF350 sounds great, but it seems to have a High Pass filter set at a higher frequency than the MB200. (Going by how they react when playing upright - the MB200 requires an HPF.
And the PF350 can't take temperature swings.

I see GK RBs for cheap all the time here. I think I need to get one just because!

The old a new RB’s just rock.
In some ways I still wish I had my 700II over the M6.
 
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*Disclaimer. The opinions expressed here are my own. They do not reflect those of other members of this club.

I finally got the new to me ‘05 Studio set up, cleaned and polished. It took freaking forever because the previous owner or owners had no clue.

This was a SF Bay Area Craigslist find that Dave noticed and offered to check out. My instructions were to buy it unless there was something obvious that couldn’t be corrected. It was a very good deal at $1K, with case. And with no tax or shipping charge.

I stared work on it on Friday. Removed completely dead rounds that were on it and tossed them. Cleaned and polished the frets, cleaned and oiled the fretboard and made sure frets were sound. They are. No high or loose frets. No noticeable wear. I can’t tell if they have ever been leveled or crowned. Fret end work is immaculate.
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Opened the control cavity. I have no clues if this is how it came from Gibson or if it had been modified. Any thoughts?
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I popped the TBird Plus pups. I assume this is how they came from Gibson. Does anyone know differently? Anyway, they sound AMAZING! Ken would love them.

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Restrung with Dunlop MM Stainless Steel Superbrights. I was going to use 50-105 SIT Power Steels that I ordered but couldn’t find. They came when I was at the GTG. My wife put them somewhere, but couldn’t remember where. Tuned out to be a blessing in disguise. After installing them, it was obvious how dead the old strings were. I was a bit concerned there may have been a tone pot issue, put new strings put that concern to rest.

Then the “fun” began. Look at how the saddles were placed on the. Bridge. And they were set at weird heights. Whoever messed with it was an idiot. And I’m trying to be nice. And the neck was nowhere near straight, but the TR works perfectly so that issue was easily rectified.
View attachment 5156768

Notice that it’s a Badass II bridge. That is not what these basses came with. While the stock bridge was not a three point, it was a Gibson version of the 7ender 5 screw mount high mass style bridge. And this bass would have come with a chrome, not black, bridge. Putting the Badass on this Bird was a total fail. Whoever installed it on this Thunderbird is a complete moron. The Badass was originally designed for 7ender string through body applications. The holes in this bridge were not drilled wide enough for a common set of 45-105s with thick end windings at the ball ends to pass through easily. Again, what an idiot. The bass was “chorusy” before I started working on it. I’m not surprised given that the old strings were bound and twisted. Ugh.

So the obvious solution to me was to replace the stupid Badass bridge with a chrome Babicz 5 screw mount bridge. But wait. The idiot who installed it over tightened the screws. This thing won’t come off. And even if it did, the indentations made by the oversized Badass bridge would be visible.

So realizing that the bridge stays, I worked to file the old holes using the old strings. It was slow going. But I got enough paint and metal removed from the holes to make it work. It took about two hours to get this accomplished.

The bridge is a POS. I will never buy one. .050 hex key is required. Gibson multi-tool to the rescue for that fail. It took forever to get the height and intonation set. About two hours yesterday of back and forth adjustments and another half hour today.

At the end of the day, it’s a great Thunderbird. Beautiful in fact. And it sounds and now plays awesome. But man, it was a project getting it to fly right again.

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Wow on the BadA$$.
But I think it’s a perfectly fine bridge for that bass.
I thought it played great as it was.
But I also would get everything cleaned up on it.
 
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Right hand pedal tones on the bass side, hammer-on/pull-off notes from left hand on treble side? :unsure:
Your guess is a good as mine. I have adequately sized hands to take on a big P-bass neck, but there is little chance they would be adequate to do much with that thing. He should play slide on it with a length of sewer pipe.