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#261,783
WillyW said:
ohh great just what I needed….


More projects….




I do believe I’m shooting the base coat on the DC telecaster tonight…

I am going with the blue/yellow flowers on the DC, the headstock turned out absolutely perfect with the surf/pink, but it was a test run to see if I needed a base coat, and the grain shows through just enough to be annoying..

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I can save you time by just telling you what’s in all 4 volumes.

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Perhaps there is more coming, I hope :)
 
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#261,785
Engle said:
Epi VI scarf joint repair in progress:

I’m using G2 epoxy. It’s industrial grade. It gives you 60 minutes of working time.
To aid in glue flow, I warmed the neck with a heat gun, warmed the epoxy a bit in the sun before I started.

The black wire is attached to the back wall. I used it to spread the joint open and shoved epoxy in there as far as I could with a piece of thin cardboard.

Then I released the wire and worked the headstock back and forth for a while , then shoved more epoxy in and worked it back and forth some more.

When I was satisfied it had gotten all the way down, I clamped and cleaned up the excess with vinegar.

The chipped finish is not a problem. I’ll be stripping the neck and applying tung oil.
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and I have a set of black Gotoh tuners, from a Fernandez I scrapped many years ago.

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I’ve not seen an Epi VI… :roflmao:
 
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Engle said:
My buddy that builds drums uses water based finishes. They're beautiful and don't look like a coat of plastic, not that there's anything wrong with that...
https://www.klemmdrums.com/
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Modern (as in today - 2023!) acrylics are more durable than lacquer and look great (just as good if not better). People need to to get over the misconceived, propagandized vintage hype over lacquer vs acrylic - the initial negative issues of acrylic happened 50 yrs ago. Acrylics today don't look like a coat of plastic and I call BS on anyone who echoes that sentiment. And that goes for the more recent water-based finishes from what I've seen. So much of the vintage guitar 'folklore' is twisted hype and only propagated to sell a product for more than its worth. I'm not aiming this critique at you Irv - it's just that people are being duped believing in these false "truths".
 
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#261,789
Ringhammer said:
Yeah, I know that he “can’t”, but hoping he “would”. Also was hoping he was within 3’ish hours of the SF Bay Area, I really don’t want to ship. Considering having an ‘01 bird redone in black, from the typical burst, but don’t really want poly like my VP. I think someone praised a “thin poly”? Maybe that could be my answer. The other alternative, to stay authentic with nitro, is sending it to Missouri (MJT), but again, very reluctant to ship…
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"Roadtrip!":rolleyes:
 
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stlrocker said:
Have Hipshot HB6 3/8" ultralites in my classic pro. I got the licensed (import) version and they're very nice.

Mine are mini clover. The clovers edges will slightly interfere with each other as they turn, but only if they are both flat at the same time. It's never been a problem for me.

Also available in Y Key or lollipop.

Gotoh gb350 resolite should also fit and has a straight string post. I have never tried these.

Gotoh gb707 should fit the same but aren't lightweight.

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Thx man, It’s the GB350’s I like best.
 
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I have no other reason to post this, other than it being funny.

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#261,792
JIO said:
Modern (as in today - 2023!) acrylics are more durable than lacquer and look great (just as good if not better). People need to to get over the misconceived, propagandized vintage hype over lacquer vs acrylic - the initial negative issues of acrylic happened 50 yrs ago. Acrylics today don't look like a coat of plastic…
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I dunno, my VP’s, both black and white, look and feel rather candy coated. And that’s fine, nice and shiny and durable!

I’m hoping I can just find a black Gibson ‘bird, with ebony fretboard, and then sell the 2nd (the 2001) of two tobacco burst ‘birds I have. My ‘95 is nice and worn naturally from what appears to be lots of use, which I am continuing, and it’s the one burst I’m keeping.
The 2001 is in really nice shape and a really good player, and very pretty. I just know eventually, if I don’t run across a suitable and fair priced one in black, then having the ‘01 refinished is something I’ll consider. I simply want it to look and feel authentic, as if it came from the factory. However it would be a shame to refinish this one as it is a good looking burst. But, it is already in my hands. If I do find a black one, selling this one could take a long time. There are two others (a ‘91 and a ‘13) locally for sale that have been on my CL for months.

There are a couple of black ones I’ve seen for sale at reasonable prices but the fretboard is rosewood and too light colored. The best ones I have seen are (of course) coming from Japan.

Has anyone here bought that is in Japan off eBay?
 
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JIO said:
Modern (as in today - 2023!) acrylics are more durable than lacquer and look great (just as good if not better). People need to to get over the misconceived, propagandized vintage hype over lacquer vs acrylic - the initial negative issues of acrylic happened 50 yrs ago. Acrylics today don't look like a coat of plastic and I call BS on anyone who echoes that sentiment. And that goes for the more recent water-based finishes from what I've seen. So much of the vintage guitar 'folklore' is twisted hype and only propagated to sell a product for more than its worth. I'm not aiming this critique at you Irv - it's just that people are being duped believing in these false "truths".
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You and I are both old enough to remember the war in the visual art world between advocates of oil pint vs advocates of acrylic. Thankfully, I’m not old enough for the oil vs egg tempura battles. Although Thomas Hart Benton tried to rejuvenate the use of egg tempura centuries after anyone else used it.
 
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JIO said:
Modern (as in today - 2023!) acrylics are more durable than lacquer and look great (just as good if not better). People need to to get over the misconceived, propagandized vintage hype over lacquer vs acrylic - the initial negative issues of acrylic happened 50 yrs ago. Acrylics today don't look like a coat of plastic and I call BS on anyone who echoes that sentiment. And that goes for the more recent water-based finishes from what I've seen. So much of the vintage guitar 'folklore' is twisted hype and only propagated to sell a product for more than its worth. I'm not aiming this critique at you Irv - it's just that people are being duped believing in these false "truths".
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I know what you're saying. There is a certain level of belief that nitro lacquer somehow affects the sound and makes an electric guitar better. I just like the way it checks and wears. It's really an inferior finish compared to modern choices.

If you look at the water based acrylic finishes on Rick's drums, they don't look like plastic coating at all.

Epiphone uses polyurethane finishes, which I believe are oil based. (I stand to be corrected). They are thick! And tough! My Casady and VP have beautiful finishes. On my Epi Explorer it's very apparent how thick the finish is because one of the points has a big chip out of it. It does look like plastic on that one.

Lacquer also comes in acrylic and nitro. And modern nitro is different from the stuff they used in the 60's.
 
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Engle said:
I know what you're saying. There is a certain level of belief that nitro lacquer somehow affects the sound and makes an electric guitar better. I just like the way it checks and wears. It's really an inferior finish compared to modern choices.

If you look at the water based acrylic finishes on Rick's drums, they don't look like plastic coating at all.

Epiphone uses polyurethane finishes, which I believe are oil based. (I stand to be corrected). They are thick! And tough! My Casady and VP have beautiful finishes. On my Epi Explorer it's very apparent how thick the finish is because one of the points has a big chip out of it. It does look like plastic on that one.

Lacquer also comes in acrylic and nitro. And modern nitro is different from the stuff they used in the 60's.
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My Heckinhecker (lol, as if there are more of them :laugh:) has old school nitro, and though it took forever to cure, I also like the way it's aging.
 
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