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Thunderbird Club

Quoting myself, to go on about pickup sourcing, & what better place to ask the kingdom. I'm currently going back on a bunch of prior threads which talk about each type of thunderbird replacement pickup. & well I'm out of the boat for Thunderbucker Ranch as I've just learned (better late than never) has closed shop a while back. So I'm left with options from the following for that angry piano/vintage TBird sound:

- Mike Lull
- Lollars
- Curtis Novaks
- ChinaBuckers from EYParts

If i'm forgetting any builder, please mention them. This would most likely go into my TreeBird, however i would then paint the covers in black to match the overall look of the bass. I am still considering the Eric Custom Gibson spec'd Modern pickups (in the epiphone casing), mainly because they are inexpensive, & a different set than my Deep Sixx pickups (which i'm unsure how close they are to standard epiphone IV TBplus pickups). I'm aware the Seymour Duncan Custom Shop offers Tbird pickups, but rarely have seen/read anyone talk about them considering the amount of Lulls, Lollars, Novaks, Thunderbucker Ranch devotees. Probably due to relatively the same amount of $$$ spent, why go for Duncan when there are other "small" builders. & being in Canada, the $$ exchange is a bit more than USD, but money isn't an issue if i'm looking for perhaps the pickups that would suit my musical venture best.

I know we're all very different players in terms of our tone/sound, fx if any, pick/fingerstyle. I always play my bird with a pick as i'm dominently a pick user. & fingerstyle doesn't feel great compared to playing my pbasses. I consider my Bird as a heavy rock beast - currently its low end is thunderrous, a little sparkle on top, mids do sit in the lower mid vs upper mids, but i can get a bit of upper mid bump depending on how my amp is set. Usually go from subtle overdriven, to chaotic distorted (fuzz isn't really my thing, as i've not found a fuzz i enjoyed enough to keep as part of my rig).

I think i fell for the thunderbird look with Nikki Sixx, even though i feel his best tone (least in studio, live really depends), with his Spector birds (so EMG Reverse P/J pickups, single volume, & way different woods from the Gibson counterpart). The modern Bird tone i enjoyed was Twiggy live with Manson back in the 90's-00's, just heavy, loud, & gritty. Early bird tones was Mott the Hoople/Overend Watts, to me that's a solid vintage bird tone. Enthwistle to me, while i enjoy his bird tones, i've always prefered his early Who days with a Pbass, + he's always had this big gritty tone no matter what bass he played xD

Apologies for the long post, in short - what's everyones personal experience with pickups from Lull, Lollar, Novaks, the Chinabucker, & BuckerRanch (even though they're gone, it'll give me an idea of what amde them special to everyone, & which of the two he offered 63' & 66' came out on top).

Cheers!


I've not tinkered with pickups on my FenderBirds, so my input is limited.

The Silver FenderBird is a custom job from A to Z (commissioned by its 1st owner) and came with active EMGs, with volume, bass, treble and blend controls. That's a beast, very loud and also well defined enough. I believe EMG still makes the same in passive mode. The guy I bought it from (2nd owner) played metal with it. Not you average Thunderbird for sure.

The White FenderBird still has the original Goth pickups. Sounds a tard dark, but I love it, very suitable for what I do. Almost went for a tone cap change (the 0.022 one I believe), but kept it stock.

The Vintage Sunburst FenderBird is still getting assembled, so I don't have it on hand. It's a 2010 Epi body with stock electronics and all. I once AB'd those with a 2011 Gibson I owned and they were close enough. Not many people could tell the difference, apart from this crowd of course. Very classic Bird

That's all I got :-)
 
Quoting myself, to go on about pickup sourcing, & what better place to ask the kingdom. I'm currently going back on a bunch of prior threads which talk about each type of thunderbird replacement pickup. & well I'm out of the boat for Thunderbucker Ranch as I've just learned (better late than never) has closed shop a while back. So I'm left with options from the following for that angry piano/vintage TBird sound:

- Mike Lull
- Lollars
- Curtis Novaks
- ChinaBuckers from EYParts

If i'm forgetting any builder, please mention them. This would most likely go into my TreeBird, however i would then paint the covers in black to match the overall look of the bass. I am still considering the Eric Custom Gibson spec'd Modern pickups (in the epiphone casing), mainly because they are inexpensive, & a different set than my Deep Sixx pickups (which i'm unsure how close they are to standard epiphone IV TBplus pickups). I'm aware the Seymour Duncan Custom Shop offers Tbird pickups, but rarely have seen/read anyone talk about them considering the amount of Lulls, Lollars, Novaks, Thunderbucker Ranch devotees. Probably due to relatively the same amount of $$$ spent, why go for Duncan when there are other "small" builders. & being in Canada, the $$ exchange is a bit more than USD, but money isn't an issue if i'm looking for perhaps the pickups that would suit my musical venture best.

I know we're all very different players in terms of our tone/sound, fx if any, pick/fingerstyle. I always play my bird with a pick as i'm dominently a pick user. & fingerstyle doesn't feel great compared to playing my pbasses. I consider my Bird as a heavy rock beast - currently its low end is thunderrous, a little sparkle on top, mids do sit in the lower mid vs upper mids, but i can get a bit of upper mid bump depending on how my amp is set. Usually go from subtle overdriven, to chaotic distorted (fuzz isn't really my thing, as i've not found a fuzz i enjoyed enough to keep as part of my rig).

I think i fell for the thunderbird look with Nikki Sixx, even though i feel his best tone (least in studio, live really depends), with his Spector birds (so EMG Reverse P/J pickups, single volume, & way different woods from the Gibson counterpart). The modern Bird tone i enjoyed was Twiggy live with Manson back in the 90's-00's, just heavy, loud, & gritty. Early bird tones was Mott the Hoople/Overend Watts, to me that's a solid vintage bird tone. Enthwistle to me, while i enjoy his bird tones, i've always prefered his early Who days with a Pbass, + he's always had this big gritty tone no matter what bass he played xD

Apologies for the long post, in short - what's everyones personal experience with pickups from Lull, Lollar, Novaks, the Chinabucker, & BuckerRanch (even though they're gone, it'll give me an idea of what amde them special to everyone, & which of the two he offered 63' & 66' came out on top).

Cheers!
Don’t forget Gibson are selling 2 different T’bird pickups now.
Chrome from the 2021 NR
And the usual black TB+
 
Just keepin it real. :)
The best TBird here is the one playing it.

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I don't think I have seen these before (Or at least don't remember them). Thanks for posting!!

There are also these, which are still an unknown as to the quality. But I am seriously considering buying the Degenerate or Devastator to test it. They also offer 5 string versions.

Devastator Thunderbird bass pickup, 4 or 5 string, alnico 8, modern tone



AHEM!!!
Both came up some me time ago but no one knew much about them. And I don’t recall anyone deciding to give them a try.
 
That's a funky little shop, it's in Burien, WA. very near my fave dive bar, Fireside.
We can visit during GTG :D
Yeah. They(say they)don't ship and it's a little too far for me to drive to pickup. Plus I really don't need it.
It would be cool to play the 67NR through, though. And 50W(tube) is enuff for most of the gigs we get.
 
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And buzzing my house with afterburners blazing. Too bad my iPhone camera sucks.
In GA, we loved not far from Dobbins AFB (and for a year I worked across the street from the dnd of the runway). By the age of 4, our kids could tell from the engine sound which model of plane was flying nearby. It was wonderful.
 
I don't think I have seen these before (Or at least don't remember them). Thanks for posting!!

There are also these, which are still an unknown as to the quality. But I am seriously considering buying the Degenerate or Devastator to test it. They also offer 5 string versions.

Devastator Thunderbird bass pickup, 4 or 5 string, alnico 8, modern tone

AHEM!!!

I've just had a listen to all 3 of his options: Dominator, Devastator, Degenerate. & the devastator would be the one i'd get for myself. Degenerate is too much, I like to control the chaos of gain in my signal when its active xD But to each their own for sure. at 100 GBP per, doesn't seem too bad.
 
Both came up some me time ago but no one knew much about them. And I don’t recall anyone deciding to give them a try.

I like the idea of a UK co. producing thunderbird specific stuff - but after listening to his sound clips I'm much less likely to take a punt for £200 a set: sounds like he didn't adjust his input gain correctly so at least half of the devastator demo is just farting rubbish! If he can't work that out I'm doubtful we'd agree on much!! The most trad design pup just sounds "meh" and the middle design, which I'd hope to be most appealing is just "me-e-e-eh . . . "
Over the next few months I'm gonna get Dan Armstrong's grandson, Aaron, to make me three sets, one set poky as f*★k, one set modern ceramic (but clearer top and bum, punchy mid) and one set a bit more trad/Alnico. I'll put the poky in the Rexbird, ceramic in the Fiddybird and the Alnico in the Bluebird. This is prob going to take "a little while" to manifest but when it does I will do some sound clips - and will make sure input gains are correct as well as instrument setups so all things are more equal.
Not sure how well known he is but Kent Armstrong (Dan's son, Aaron's dad) is producing pups from somewhere in New England. He's a genius dude and a great chap (used to live about 40 minutes from me), I've used his pups along with some R&D basslines F-types in everything I've played or built (which isn't a thunderbird) since '87 but it was his design passive humbuckers I fell for all those years ago. Clarity, warmth, punch and oodles of instrument tone that I hear when I play the things acoustically, sat in a room with no noisy buggers around!!
 
Stonewall Pickups Alternate Dimension Thunderbird Bass Humbucker set | Reverb Canada

No affiliation with seller, but anyone ever heard of Stonewall pickups? These seem interesting, though very pricy (least on reverb).

Also, if anyone is interested (i would buy them for myself because i've heard great things), pair of 760's for grabs (from indonesia) Epiphone Bass Pickup Probucker 760 Set | Embassy & Thunderbird Stock Pickup | DHL Express Delivery Included | | Reverb Canada
Another one that gets asked about once in awhile. I don’t recall anyone having or trying them.
 
Stonewall Pickups Alternate Dimension Thunderbird Bass Humbucker set | Reverb Canada

No affiliation with seller, but anyone ever heard of Stonewall pickups? These seem interesting, though very pricy (least on reverb).

Also, if anyone is interested (i would buy them for myself because i've heard great things), pair of 760's for grabs (from indonesia) Epiphone Bass Pickup Probucker 760 Set | Embassy & Thunderbird Stock Pickup | DHL Express Delivery Included | | Reverb Canada

I think someone here has a set of the Stonewall pickups, but I don't think they really recommended them.