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I thought that looked/sounded like Bruford! :thumbsup:

You and others might get a chuckle out of the commentary in this BBC doc on prog rock featuring some cynical quips by Bruford around 12:56.



But it’s entertaining throughout- talk about moments of hubristic pomposity, not that certain live clips of ELP had anything to do with that sentiment -

But I’ll give ELP this- I liked “Lucky Man”, “In the Beginning”, and the Tarkus album-
 
fancy schmancy…..uses a transformer, the way it should be imo…..Trace Elliott’s implementation, works ok..
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Maybe when I can retire I’ll get back to learning how all that works, and learn how to read those schematics. I have a good general sense of circuits and am frequently tasked with creating something specific, and I have done some interesting stuff with a 12VDC PS, a timer module, DPDT relays, key switches and LED’s over the years.
 
Hah, that might be the only Beatles song I have tried to learn. I got halfway through, then, um, wait, look something shiny. I need to get back on that. That song is a great example of what I like in music that I like the most, it’s very heavy (it even says so in the lyrics), and while I am definitely a heavy music fan, it’s that heavy plodding dark feeling song that is what I like in songs. Heavy rock bands obviously do it, but some other bands, to my ears, have a lot of songs with that heavy dark feeling vibe. Throwing Muses, PJ Harvey, Bauhaus/Peter Murphy, some older REM, Mazzy Star(! super dark and atmospheric) are a few that come to mind.
Look up LA Witch, also great band, Mazzy Star sounding vox with a lot of Fender Super Reverb guitar tone. Surf tones but not surf music.
You and I have some similar tastes. Mazzy Star, Throwing Muses, PJ Harvey….

I know of L.A. Witch; they get a lot of love in SoCal.
 
Hah, that might be the only Beatles song I have tried to learn. I got halfway through, then, um, wait, look something shiny. I need to get back on that. That song is a great example of what I like in music that I like the most, it’s very heavy (it even says so in the lyrics), and while I am definitely a heavy music fan, it’s that heavy plodding dark feeling song that is what I like in songs. Heavy rock bands obviously do it, but some other bands, to my ears, have a lot of songs with that heavy dark feeling vibe. Throwing Muses, PJ Harvey, Bauhaus/Peter Murphy, some older REM, Mazzy Star(! super dark and atmospheric) are a few that come to mind.
Look up LA Witch, also great band, Mazzy Star sounding vox with a lot of Fender Super Reverb guitar tone. Surf tones but not surf music.
Ghost Highway from Mazzy Star is a really fun yet simple one to try. Lends itself really well to some heavy distortion. I have some recordings from when Opal was transitioning to Mazzy Star with Hope on vocals and Roback's guitar is very thick and distorted. Sounds amazing.
 
Ghost Highway from Mazzy Star is a really fun yet simple one to try. Lends itself really well to some heavy distortion. I have some recordings from when Opal was transitioning to Mazzy Star with Hope on vocals and Roback's guitar is very thick and distorted. Sounds amazing.
A sort of similar band I follow is Seattle based La Luz. They’ve had a few personnel changes, including losing bassist Lena Simon a year or so ago. I saw them around 2015 and fell in love.
 
Maybe when I can retire I’ll get back to learning how all that works, and learn how to read those schematics. I have a good general sense of circuits and am frequently tasked with creating something specific, and I have done some interesting stuff with a 12VDC PS, a timer module, DPDT relays, key switches and LED’s over the years.
sounds like you’re doing controls, very cool….utilities if I may?
 
sounds like you’re doing controls, very cool….utilities if I may?

What I have done since 1984 is electronic security (burglar alarm systems). My dad started his company in 1971. There was barely a such thing as an actual “control panel when he started in ‘65. Just a bypass keyswitch, magnetic contacts(probably closed loop/NO), a bell and dry cell batteries. Open a door, close the circuit and the bell would ring. Viola, a burglar alarm.
When I came into it, I saw and had to work on the early control panels, with led indicators and “zones”, delay circuits, so you could enter and disarm with 30 seconds, etc. and I also had to do the old stuff, like window foil. Super ‘60’s -‘70’s stuff.

Many times a customer would want something unusual and we’d have to figure a way to make it work with causing false alarms and all while being convenient to use.

I still work with my dad’s long time GM, who was my boss as far back as the late ‘80’s. He is now out of the industry, and is currently the president of a local casino here near SFO. That casino was my father’s company’s client since the late ‘80’s and one of my assigned “job sites”. I know that building inside out. Wired and installed over 100 access control doors virtually alone when they added a huge new part of the building in 1990-91. Now all these years later, it is my client. This is one place where I still have to figure ways to do unique things they want to do.

Such as, two doors with access controls/electric locks, and each door also has a mag lock. When one door opens the other doors mag lock will engage and vice-versa. Simple man trap, but maybe reverse(?).

They have a flood gate in the driveway that will fill with water if it starts to flood, and float up to block any water from getting in the basement garage. I had to make it so when it raises, a light will blink, and it will interrupt the access control system so that no one can run a card by the reader to raise the gate/arm and open the rollup gate into the garage. Oh, and install a test/bypass keyswitch on the whole thing so it can be tested.

A lot of the stuff I used to have to figure out a way to do with PS, timers, and relays can be done with the more sophisticated control panels now, but it still happens that someone wants something weird.

I’m not aware of too many people that stayed in this industry as long as I have, and I’m lucky I was able to go out on my own and be reasonably successful. Not rich, but comfortable, which is fine by me.
 
What I have done since 1984 is electronic security (burglar alarm systems). My dad started his company in 1971. There was barely a such thing as an actual “control panel when he started in ‘65. Just a bypass keyswitch, magnetic contacts(probably closed loop/NO), a bell and dry cell batteries. Open a door, close the circuit and the bell would ring. Viola, a burglar alarm.
When I came into it, I saw and had to work on the early control panels, with led indicators and “zones”, delay circuits, so you could enter and disarm with 30 seconds, etc. and I also had to do the old stuff, like window foil. Super ‘60’s -‘70’s stuff.

Many times a customer would want something unusual and we’d have to figure a way to make it work with causing false alarms and all while being convenient to use.

I still work with my dad’s long time GM, who was my boss as far back as the late ‘80’s. He is now out of the industry, and is currently the president of a local casino here near SFO. That casino was my father’s company’s client since the late ‘80’s and one of my assigned “job sites”. I know that building inside out. Wired and installed over 100 access control doors virtually alone when they added a huge new part of the building in 1990-91. Now all these years later, it is my client. This is one place where I still have to figure ways to do unique things they want to do.

Such as, two doors with access controls/electric locks, and each door also has a mag lock. When one door opens the other doors mag lock will engage and vice-versa. Simple man trap, but maybe reverse(?).

They have a flood gate in the driveway that will fill with water if it starts to flood, and float up to block any water from getting in the basement garage. I had to make it so when it raises, a light will blink, and it will interrupt the access control system so that no one can run a card by the reader to raise the gate/arm and open the rollup gate into the garage. Oh, and install a test/bypass keyswitch on the whole thing so it can be tested.

A lot of the stuff I used to have to figure out a way to do with PS, timers, and relays can be done with the more sophisticated control panels now, but it still happens that someone wants something weird.

I’m not aware of too many people that stayed in this industry as long as I have, and I’m lucky I was able to go out on my own and be reasonably successful. Not rich, but comfortable, which is fine by me.
Why is my power light yellow :)

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