Thunderbird Club

[5StringBlues]

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Oddly enough, I had the same 1st grade teacher as my mother. And no not at the same time.

She was young when my mother had her and seemed maybe a day less than 105 when I had her. (She was probably only about 60m if that.)

60 meters?!?

 

[Miles_ONeal]

It’s only 104 in Bako. Supposed to reach 110. But it’s a dry heat.

This is the worst heat wave we’ve had in the 38 years we’ve been here.

That was here last summer.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

I feel you. I love the Hiwatt 200 I have but gigging with it can be a pain. 65 pounds feels heavier at 56 than at 26. Also it only has a top mounted handle so getting a solid grip to lift it can be a challenge. Loading in and out with stairs, in sketchy areas, adds to the fun.

In addition to playing in a band with my wife & brother-in-law (original music) I too started playing in a lo-fi rock band (also all original) and have been using a Fender Rumble 200 combo w/ 1X15. Once the band gets going and I have an effect or two on, you can't really tell much difference.

The Rumble is 31lbs and sounds really good on it own.

Rumbles are excellent gigging amps. Even if I could justify an SVT, I’d either need to be able to leave it in s regular gigging spot or have a roadie. Too much hassle otherwise.

 

[RedVee]

All this talk of ultimate amps has made me tired... Just kidding...
The three point bridge in my Classic Pro, it's got a radius to it. I know a guy who owns a guitar shop in town and he says they don't start out that way, but get distorted over time due to the tension of the strings. Is there any truth to that?
I'm mulling over whether to spend on a new bridge or not.

I’m calling

I agree with the bovine excrement assessment.

They are set with radius to match the radius of the fingerboard

 

[dagrev]

This does happen to some 3-point bridges. Over the years people have posted pictures of the bridge body arching in the middle and cracking. Pretty sure I donated a bridge body to Uwe (Owner of the greatest Gibson Bass Collection Known to Mankind) years ago for this very reason.

Thanks for the good info. That's interesting. I have never seen or heard of this.

 

[GonePlaid]

I love it. For guitar or bass it's pretty awesome. I ran pedal steel off of it as well and it performed awesome.

Honestly, they're great when you have the stage room to truly open them up a bit. If you can really push them, nothing else does the exact same thing. But to open them up you've gotta be playing large stages of 500+ at least. I loved it when we were hitting rodeos across the country and amphitheaters. Shoot, I got to really get on it for a small run I filled in on opening for Coldplay, it was damn glorious in the arenas. In the smaller bars it definitely wasn't ideal. Some clubs were good for it, others not so much. For the average person playing, I wouldn't recommend them. But when you can use them for what they were designed for.... Yeah, they're great.

The one I had sat on the same stage for 50 weeks a year for 3 years. But the room wasn't big enuff to 'crank' it, so I never got to hear it 'open up'. Gig ended, sold it.

 

[GonePlaid]

Rumbles are excellent gigging amps. Even if I could justify an SVT, I’d either need to be able to leave it in s regular gigging spot or have a roadie. Too much hassle otherwise.

'Zackly. Or get 2 Rumble 800s. Less total weight, plenty of 'oomph' and most places you'd "need" that much would have FOH anyway.

 

[dagrev]

I love it. For guitar or bass it's pretty awesome. I ran pedal steel off of it as well and it performed awesome.

Honestly, they're great when you have the stage room to truly open them up a bit. If you can really push them, nothing else does the exact same thing. But to open them up you've gotta be playing large stages of 500+ at least. I loved it when we were hitting rodeos across the country and amphitheaters. Shoot, I got to really get on it for a small run I filled in on opening for Coldplay, it was damn glorious in the arenas. In the smaller bars it definitely wasn't ideal. Some clubs were good for it, others not so much. For the average person playing, I wouldn't recommend them. But when you can use them for what they were designed for.... Yeah, they're great.

Well said. The main reason I never seriously considered one. If I played large venues and likely had someone to move the rig that would change things. I have three Ampeg all tube heads (100w). They sound great at low volumes, but the V-4B reissue is crazy good sounding when the power tubes are really pushed. But it's also crazy loud for most places at that point, even at 100w. The other two sound more like 100w SVTs given they have the same bigger voicing.

 

[dagrev]

There have been times I had a blast playing, only to have people who know (my wife, other musicians) tell me they couldn’t hear the bass at all - but lots of others told me how great I played or how great the bass sounded. I was clearly into it, so whatever sounded good, the lowest part they heard “must have been Miles”.

Bass players being heard is like Area 51 at times in that stuff happens, but no one is really sure what it is. I am 8ft from my cab and often sound like I might be loud to only have my wife who is playing on the opposite side of the platform (my 410 is aimed across the platform toward her and everyone else), say she couldn't here me. I have that big of a cab because it sounds great and use it to add to what goes through FOH. I'm not sure much real bass gets past the sound guy. What I tend to hear from the FOH is thin, so I reinforce the PA. Or at least think I am. (Yeah, I know it's supposed t be the other way around.) One day I need to take my wireless and walk back to hear what's actually getting out there.

 

[dagrev]

60 meters?!?

Ha! Well, yeah, she was really tall come to think of it.

 

[MCF]

I have a copy of the LP. I bought it at a Goodwill. If you walk into any Goodwill/Salvation Army/thrift store that has an LP/album section/rack.., you'll find at least one copy of it. That and the South Pacific (soundtrack)... at least one of each.

And Frampton Comes Alive.

 

[MCF]

Bass players being heard is like Area 51 at times in that stuff happens, but no one is really sure what it is. I am 8ft from my cab and often sound like I might be loud to only have my wife who is playing on the opposite side of the platform (my 410 is aimed across the platform toward her and everyone else), say she couldn't here me. I have that big of a cab because it sounds great and use it to add to what goes through FOH. I'm not sure much real bass gets past the sound guy. What I tend to hear from the FOH is thin, so I reinforce the PA. Or at least think I am. (Yeah, I know it's supposed t be the other way around.) One day I need to take my wireless and walk back to hear what's actually getting out there.

I assumed you were already using wireless to dial in tone, particularly from the ‘21.

 

[MCF]

You left out Mrs Emma Peel...

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And dozens of others. Including Will’s own Dorothy Hamill.

 

[GonePlaid]

Bass players being heard is like Area 51 at times in that stuff happens, but no one is really sure what it is. I am 8ft from my cab and often sound like I might be loud to only have my wife who is playing on the opposite side of the platform (my 410 is aimed across the platform toward her and everyone else), say she couldn't here me. I have that big of a cab because it sounds great and use it to add to what goes through FOH. I'm not sure much real bass gets past the sound guy. What I tend to hear from the FOH is thin, so I reinforce the PA. Or at least think I am. (Yeah, I know it's supposed t be the other way around.) One day I need to take my wireless and walk back to hear what's actually getting out there.

Yeah, but because of the delay from the signal going from your bass to the stage and then back to you, it won't be an accurate example.

 

[dagrev]

I assumed you were already using wireless to dial in tone, particularly from the ‘21.

I have used it when we rehearse, but always bring it back home. I use it so I don't have a cord laying around or have to fold up.

I am just going on what I hear. What gets out too much in the room is less under my control, and what I have found is that if a bass it boomy, etc., where I'm standing it will only be worse the farther away I get.

 

[MCF]

That was here last summer.

And now Hurricanes for Houston with flying trampolines.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

I love it. For guitar or bass it's pretty awesome. I ran pedal steel off of it as well and it performed awesome.

Honestly, they're great when you have the stage room to truly open them up a bit. If you can really push them, nothing else does the exact same thing. But to open them up you've gotta be playing large stages of 500+ at least. I loved it when we were hitting rodeos across the country and amphitheaters. Shoot, I got to really get on it for a small run I filled in on opening for Coldplay, it was damn glorious in the arenas. In the smaller bars it definitely wasn't ideal. Some clubs were good for it, others not so much. For the average person playing, I wouldn't recommend them. But when you can use them for what they were designed for.... Yeah, they're great.

nothing against them, of the opinion a whole lot of the SVT allure is of nostalgic nature…they became irrelevant when PA systems grew past just amplifying vocals imho…..on paper, they are just another fairly flat (when not using the funny little switches), heavy, 300 Watt tube amplifier…yes, the 810 has its own mojo but so did other enclosures of the period…

 

[dagrev]

White J Wed?

 

[TBird1958]

Well, it's white - def not a J