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When i built guitar/bass i tried Schaller thinking the German stuff would be best. I was very disappointed in their machining and their customer service is terrible.

I tried all the top hardware and the Awards go to Gotoh.
What put Gotoh at the top of the list?

Also, love the avatar. Still an excellent album.
 
Ordered the steel today to make blades for "Super Humbuckers" the Bill Lawrence designed pickups that came in the Gibson Rippers. Someone asked if i could build them a custom ripper. Knowing how Bill designed stuff i figured it was a cost effective design. Its basically a small EB. I already have the ceramic mags from the custom Strat/tele sized p90 offerings. The bobbins are Mini Humbucker just need to cut the center blade from Italian steel. For whatever reason the size steel needed my distributor has is Italian. I need to confirm but these should fit EMG35 , Humbucker , EB , i don't think barts will work. Since the pickup will be 1 1/4
I'd be interested in a pair of these. I have a Japanese copy set in my 76 Ripper.
 
Wow. Looks like an obvious manufacturing defect in the plating process. Hard to believe he wouldn’t replace the single tuner, even though the one year warranty expired. Lost a good customer and maybe others who will think twice about doing business with him. Saved himself what, $30?
Even if he didn't replace it, he should have said it very differently. I'd have replaced it.
 
I was a big time user of Blue Steels, it was all I used. I was (still am) sitting on a few sets of them, probably from the early 2000’s, and they still have the blue silks. In 2013, I decided to purchase a lot of sets, like 15 each, of 45-105 and 50-105. When I got them, they did not have the blue silks and essentially they just were not the same string. I think I eventually sold the lot of them for what probably equated to $5 a pack.

Still have a few of the originals in both 45-105 and 50-105.

I wish I would’ve known about Apex.
My set has dark blue silk, so they are an earlier (good) set it seems. Bummer the new are different. Those I have are nice.
 
I was a big time user of Blue Steels, it was all I used. I was (still am) sitting on a few sets of them, probably from the early 2000’s, and they still have the blue silks. In 2013, I decided to purchase a lot of sets, like 15 each, of 45-105 and 50-105. When I got them, they did not have the blue silks and essentially they just were not the same string. I think I eventually sold the lot of them for what probably equated to $5 a pack.

Still have a few of the originals in both 45-105 and 50-105.

I wish I would’ve known about Apex.

How are the new ones different from the old ones, other than the silk? I've never played the old ones.
 
Wow. Looks like an obvious manufacturing defect in the plating process. Hard to believe he wouldn’t replace the single tuner, even though the one year warranty expired. Lost a good customer and maybe others who will think twice about doing business with him. Saved himself what, $30?
But he's $30 ahead. Until you do the math..... Likely one of those "we're too big and important to fail" situations. They think they will always have the business they have had in the past. But competition means if someone produces a better product (and service), they could very well take your place at most, or eat some of your lunch at the least. May the best product/value win.
 
But he's $30 ahead. Until you do the math..... Likely one of those "we're too big and important to fail" situations. They think they will always have the business they have had in the past. But competition means if someone produces a better product (and service), they could very well take your place at most, or eat some of your lunch at the least. May the best product/value win.

And a bad experience can spread like wildfire on the Internet. Plain stupid way to handle it.
 
It's been decades since I played the earlier version of DMBSs, but I have a set on a bass and they sound really good. Less good than decades ago, who knows? Clear but not harsh at all (never were), and very punchy with tight lows. What's not to like!
Describes the set on my Warwick to a tee. Hopefully the Apex strings will be similar.
 
This wasn't posted from the basement of bad ideas was it? :laugh:

This is pretty nice as well. Which is like the '21 NR that's burgundy.
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And who doesn't love some CAR?
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I don't have a guitar that nice down in the basement of blasphemy and bad ideas. Even if I did, it would look great, but sound awful based upon who is usually down there playing.
 
The only drop-in lightweight replacement tuners for my BC Rich's super heavy ones are the Schaller M4S. They work fine, but after a while the chrome from one of them started peeling off. The owner and CEO said, "I see at the button that your sweat is very aggressive. Please try Nickel surface, might be better." Sorry, dude, I've never experienced this with anything else, and the three other tuners are fine. Maybe your product is just crap. And it was out of the one-year warranty, so no replacement. Maybe I'll just put on the heavy originals so I don't have to look at these again.

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Did you let Jeff tune it up? He's the only acid based life form around here. That looks awful.
 
And another one of them got replaced under warranty because it grinded when turning, as if it had no lubrication inside. Just really bad products, with horrible customer support to back them up. It pains me that there's no other lightweight option for the BCR tuner. I don't want to drill holes into it for new ones. Maybe I'll have to.
Drilling holes in Gibsons is one of those great joys of life once you get used to doing it.