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observation: The neck on this Squier is still quite thin, but because of the width, and the specific curvature of the back of the neck... my thumb rests in a less fatiguing manor. I don't have to "squeeze" the neck to keep my hand there. OOOOO... curse these freakishly large mitts!!!

... or maybe it's just the diesel smoke...
 
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Cataldo wide five 19mm bridge spacing, 1-7/8" nut, starts at $1895, as shown 2495. Chrome or black hardware.
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Wide? That would be J spacing correct? I always felt "P" spacing would be considered wide. Looks super cool Carlo! :thumbsup:
 
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Wide? That would be J spacing correct? I always felt "P" spacing would be considered wide. Looks super cool Carlo! :thumbsup:
Thanks, JIO. "Standard" Fiver nut is considered 1-3/4", wide 1-7/8" . I also use 1-7/8" nut with for my neck thru 12ers with a 2-1/2" heel and narrow string spacing. Heel width for wide fiver is 3".

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Different strokes, etc.
 
Not in this particular case... but I have been component shopping to see If I could create a fat-necked Frankenstein. The largest 4 string neck that I've been able to find, is from the Roger Waters signature P-bass. I can't recall all the specs... but I remember that it's 1 3/4" at the (brass) nut! Only found one available, though. It was over-used & over-priced!
Have a look at the Road Worn P, I haven't tried it but I think they may be in your ballpark.
 
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After years of regret of selling my '63 Gibson Thunderbird II to buy a Neumann U47 mic for my studio, I finally have replaced it with a 2009 Thunderbird IV which I modified to be a '63. I replaced all the black hardware with nickel. I replaced the bridge with a chrome Babicz FCH3PT4CHP bridge, chrome Grover tuners, all screws with nickel, Got Seymour to have MJ build me some custom shop '63 vintage alnico V pickups (nickel) and added nickel pu rings and changed
the knobs to gold.
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I also had a '63 II bought used in '76 and stolen in '78 - these are as rare as they get - I've never seen another '63 II! Just wow.
 
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Thanks, JIO. "Standard" Fiver nut is considered 1-3/4", wide 1-7/8" . I also use 1-7/8" nut with for my neck thru 12ers with a 2-1/2" heel and narrow string spacing. Heel width for wide fiver is 3".

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Different strokes, etc.

My SuperB 5'r is 1-7/8" nut - J spacing. I had a nice Parker Hornet 5'r with narrower spacing and sold it because it always took too much transition to comfortably play it. Yes, different strokes :)
 
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And you will find out if they are affected by the anti-squier stigma. Dudes have been turned down for showing up to auditions with squiers, even the CV, and possibly SQ, just because it says squier on the headstock. Same sometimes applies to epiphone, but when those $349 Korean made epiphone les pauls showed up in the early 90s they made a splash as being close to the real thing. By then squier had established itself as the $169 beginner version of a fender, of sometimes dubious quality with substandard parts. The original MIJ SQ type squiers were short lived because fender realized they were good enough to brand as fenders, and began sourcing squiers elsewhere (Korea/India, before Korea became a premium builder), or ordering lower spec from Japan. Korea was notorious for plywood bodies back then.

No matter how good it plays or sounds (usually after hardware/electronics upgrades), that squier logo on the headstock has some stigma attached. At that point, sandpaper and a new decal might come in handy ;) (but never to be sold as a fender, that is a no no)

Since these guys are your friends, or at least one of them is, you might just get a "fix it before the first gig" warning. DOH!

Or not, some dudes are cool and care about the playing and not the image of the instrument or brand. I'm in so cal, plastic land of everyone is trying to be a rockstar and perceived "cheap" instruments don't fly. But ironically, relatively low end schechter and ltd are in style in the nu-metal scene because all the bands they look up to play those...
Sending a musician out the door of an audition over branding is as sad as an ad that reads "must have long hair". So very very very sad and low. I have a Squier P that sounded fantastic out of the store and then I upgraded the pickups(not necessary), the tone and volume pots (not necessary), lowered the action and added heavy gauge nickle wound strings and it sounds angry as hell with a very deep bottom end. So unfair to lump a musician by brand name.
 
Maybe you guys will know what I'm talking' about, or maybe you'll just have your suspicions regarding my sanity, confirmed... but while I was playing' a while ago, something happened that I can't really describe. I just kinda blinked my eyes, & I saw the whole 5 string thing like... differently. It was like somebody flipped a switch & made it make sense to me. Until then, I guess all I could see, was this ginormous .125 bridge cable glaring at me. Now... for whatever reason, I can "see" all 5 strings. I pooped around on a couple o' tunes after the light came on. What a difference! I'm giddy like a friggin' school girl! I wanna be in there playing' NOW, but my back is smoked from standing and sitting in the same positions too long!
 
Sending a musician out the door of an audition over branding is as sad as an ad that reads "must have long hair". So very very very sad and low. I have a Squier P that sounded fantastic out of the store and then I upgraded the pickups(not necessary), the tone and volume pots (not necessary), lowered the action and added heavy gauge nickle wound strings and it sounds angry as hell with a very deep bottom end. So unfair to lump a musician by brand name.

I won't pass the long hair requirement.

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Thanks, JIO. "Standard" Fiver nut is considered 1-3/4", wide 1-7/8" . I also use 1-7/8" nut with for my neck thru 12ers with a 2-1/2" heel and narrow string spacing. Heel width for wide fiver is 3".

Yep - my SuperB is 3" at the heel. So what is a "P" spacing 5'r considered? (aside from aircraft carrier?) :) Double wide?
 
I hope it's cool that I brought something for show & tell. It's a, uh... 6 string soprano bass... yeah!

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I was considering showing this to you guys, but now that I know that there's at least one luthier in the crowd... I GOTTA do it!
The year is 1986. Gibson closes the doors on their historic Kalamazoo plant, leaving behind a number of competent employees. Among them, was a gentleman named Kenny Rambow. Kenny thought he would try & make a go of it on his own. Rumor has it, he made a "couple hundred" guitars. I grew up about 30 miles away from "the Zoo". In all my years, I've only seen 2 of 'em. This is the second. I saw it hanging' on the wall of the now defunct Dillon's Music World, in their "bargain basement" for $200.00. It went home with me, and has remained the guitar that I compare all others to. The reason? That magnificent neck! If you'll look at the photo of the neck profile... you'll see that there is barely any taper at all. It's nearly the same thickness back by that big beautiful volute, as it is at the neck/body joint. It's a solid maple body, with a solid set maple neck & and ebony fret board. 24 3/4" scale length. It came to me with some kinda crappy old Schaller machines on it. I put on the Grover Minis. At some point, it appears to have had a stop bar/tune-o-matic bridge. When it came to me, it had an LP jr. style wrap-around. I put that (Schaller?) one-piece on there. The pups are Kenny's own hand wound. They're bright and hot. I put the chrome covers on not only for looks, but to mellow that tone a smidge. It came to me with black bezels. I thought the cream looked better with that rootbeer finish. The mini-toggle is a coil tap for the bridge position pup. I put the Gibson beauty ring around the pup selector (cuz I like it), and I ripped that ridiculous knob off an old Peavey console. It came to me with a simple Tele style chrome dome, but I figgerd, "Hey... if it's only gonna have one knob... it oughta be a DOOZY!

I hope I didn't break any rules er nuthin'. Just thought you guys would think it's cool...
 

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Sure thing I'd be honored, and good to see an active forum still going. Here are a couple more pics, I'm sure the Kahler bridge screws up the resale value but it don't matter as I'll never sell it. Now if I could keep my thumb from digging out the side of it lol
Oh hey!, your new here?. Congrats on being a member!, TBird1958 runs the greatest Club Ive ever been a part of anywhere ever in the time Ive ever browsed through social media.......anywhere!.....ever! Awesome people here!. We should really have a "cheers" emoji. Can we get that please TBird1958 ?....huh?....can we?. Pleeeeeeez?.