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#325,402
Chucky Stiletti said:
AI in music?......what do you guys think?....
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Getting there but not useful for my needs. I have tried a number of times asking AI to simplify a complex baseline. The response tends to be I can't violate a copyright so here is something close. It wasn't close at all.
 
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Miles_ONeal said:
I'm always amazed no inquisitive wildlife comes through pet doors around here.

I have a friend who, years ago, rented a rustic cabin out in the country (back in Georgia). There was a big hole in the floor. Pier and beam construction. Raccoons would occasionally get in. I can't recall why he didn't just put something big and heavy over the hole, but after he shot a raccoon coming out of the hole, he had no more problems during the few months he was there afterward.
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Bears are amazing and have crawled through pet doors here. What shocks me are people who still have them up here.
 
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Chucky Stiletti said:
AI in music?......what do you guys think?....
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I have mixed feelings.

To compose and make “performance videos” it totally sucks. Music should originate in the human heart. Not a freaking machine.

But for breaking down songs, quickly identifying keys and progressions at the touch of a button I think it is useful.

What bothers me most is the environmental footprint the technology leaves.
 
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Wednesday..........

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Chucky Stiletti said:
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I suspect AI in music creation and performance will be a lot like Autotune but on steroids. After autotune became popular we started seeing a flood of singers that can’t really sing by traditional standards. Sure many auto tune singers have become very popular but at what cost? There’s only so many promotion dollars out there, and if all the big producers are chasing the next cute autotuned act to sign up they are invariably overlooking true natural talent that they might not have in the past.

So AI enters the scene, and I suspect it’ll be a similar situation. With auto tuned performers, and their associated band members falling by the wayside as new “bands” are fabricated out of a virtual AI world. Gone will be the days of pre Madonna singers and drug and booze addled musicians. Prime music venues might even become a thing of the past. Will it even be possible to pack a stadium with 50,000 fans to hear an AI song with no actual “personalities” on stage? The theatrics (and train wreck and subsequent back stories) of an Ozzy Osborn will be a thing of the past. The hotel trashing and stripper stories with guitarists gone wild and free flowing coke and booze in the green room will be gone. Like it or not, those back stories built the bad boy reputations of many bands and players and gave each band and member a public persona that helped drive the popularity of the band.

Where will it all end? I again suspect there will eventually be a backlash against AI, much like there was against glam and big production rock, which ushered in Punk and later Grunge rock to push back on “big production” corporate bottom line driven rock. The real question is, will there be enough boomer era listeners to sustain a traditional rock band comeback? I’m not so sure the kids that are in their teens to twenty’s right now have a critical mass of “band performance” mentality vs a critical mass of iTunes listeners and solo acts backed by no name unrecognized on stage session players or click tracks or AI accompaniment.
 
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GBassNorth said:
I suspect AI in music creation and performance will be a lot like Autotune but on steroids. After autotune became popular we started seeing a flood of singers that can’t really sing by traditional standards. Sure many auto tune singers have become very popular but at what cost? There’s only so many promotion dollars out there, and if all the big producers are chasing the next cute autotuned act to sign up they are invariably overlooking true natural talent that they might not have in the past.

So AI enters the scene, and I suspect it’ll be a similar situation. With auto tuned performers, and their associated band members falling by the wayside as new “bands” are fabricated out of a virtual AI world. Gone will be the days of pre Madonna singers and drug and booze addled musicians. Prime music venues might even become a thing of the past. Will it even be possible to pack a stadium with 50,000 fans to hear an AI song with no actual “personalities” on stage? The theatrics (and train wreck and subsequent back stories) of an Ozzy Osborn will be a thing of the past. The hotel trashing and stripper stories with guitarists gone wild and free flowing coke and booze in the green room will be gone. Like it or not, those back stories built the bad boy reputations of many bands and players and gave each band and member a public persona that helped drive the popularity of the band.

Where will it all end? I again suspect there will eventually be a backlash against AI, much like there was against glam and big production rock, which ushered in Punk and later Grunge rock to push back on “big production” corporate bottom line driven rock. The real question is, will there be enough boomer era listeners to sustain a traditional rock band comeback? I’m not so sure the kids that are in their teens to twenty’s right now have a critical mass of “band performance” mentality vs a critical mass of iTunes listeners and solo acts backed by no name unrecognized on stage session players or click tracks or AI accompaniment.
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What bothers me most is the environmental footprint the technology leaves.
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Funny thing to say, but, in general, I kinda wish I was older (59 coming very soon). To me, the near future looks bleak, and very scary. Actually IMO it already happening. My parents probably won’t be here to see what I’m afraid will be the worst of it, but most likely I will. Many think things are business as usual, and have the attitude “that can’t or won’t happen here” but one day soon (I think) everyone will be in for a big (political, environmental, and economic) surprise, and none of it good.
 
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MCF said:
I have mixed feelings.

To compose and make “performance videos” it totally sucks. Music should originate in the human heart. Not a freaking machine.

But for breaking down songs, quickly identifying keys and progressions at the touch of a button I think it is useful.

What bothers me most is the environmental footprint the technology leaves.
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ironically, "it's" telling us the only realistic way forward in powering it is hydrogen fission.....
 
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