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Thunderbird Club

The Sean Conneries recording session tomorrow SUNDAY!-SUNDAY!-SUNDAY! with Robert Preston at Get Reel Productions/SF. Four original songs by our Paul, all very different - one with Kirstin's lyrics.* "Sunday Suit"- a take-no-prisoners rocker, "Green Grey Waste"*- '80s New Wave/reggae tinged (chorus bass), "Not MI6"- female spy themed (fretless), and our most adventurous to date - "Rarebit"- dark/goth, LZ ala Kashmir, operatic. (synth bass)

Bringing these unholy three to get the job done.

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Will be isolated & mic'd + d.i.
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FSO Friday.
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This one is at the shop getting a level, crown, and full end dress.
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Love that Fender in the green- so how do you like the P/J in that bass and your Mustang? That's one configuration I don't have.

Thought about buying a Sadowksy Metro Express PJ in a similar color they call Sage Green for the Florida residence back in early January- might still do when I return-

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Unicorn is one of those completely obscure bands that I thought nobody but me had ever heard of. Nice to know there are others out there who went down all kinds of strange rabbit holes.
Just thought of another you might like - Steve Gibbons (no relation to Billy). I remember hearing an ad on rock radio back in 1978 when I was a sophomore in high school which included a clip of this song-

 
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Love that Fender in the green- so how do you like the P/J in that bass and your Mustang? That's one configuration I don't have.

Thought about buying a Sadowksy Metro Express PJ in a similar color they call Sage Green for the Florida residence back in early January- might still do when I return-

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It's a colour Fender/Squier has had in its catalog for a number of years - a pale green pearl metallic
 
you know the "More Cowbell " video is imminent now right?.....
There's a cool history about that one-

Although Donaldl Roeser was often seen playing an SG, that iconic "Don't Fear the Reaper" riff was recorded with a Gibson ES 175 because Don had just moved and didn't have access to any of his guitars. So he used the produce's resident studio guitar which was indeed a Gibson ES 175.
 
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Mid year '85-mid year '86 Fender 24 fret MIJ Performer - I restored & sold it to a tb member. Very cool CBS back to Fender employees transition model.

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My take on the Performer - EMGX active "Supersonic"
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Ishibashi has a few including this:

 
Love that Fender in the green- so how do you like the P/J in that bass and your Mustang? That's one configuration I don't have.

Thought about buying a Sadowksy Metro Express PJ in a similar color they call Sage Green for the Florida residence back in early January- might still do when I return-

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The PJ Mustang is the model from when they reinstated the Mustang in the lineup in about ‘14 (before that there was a Squire Mustang, but I think it had the traditional pickup). It kind of reignited short scales as a thing and was a hit so they started making other Mustang models with different pickup configurations. I bought it when they came out for like $449.00. It came with cut 7250s (they didn’t even bother to load short scale strings on them). The tuners were horrible so I replaced them with Hipshots. It’s a nice bass now, decent 1.5 but width neck, and sounds great to me. I like the pickups enough to not think about changing them.

The surf green PJ is one that I have never bonded with. I bought it new in ‘15. I like the looks of the color and the tuxedo J neck on it. It developed a bad case of sprout early on and I’ve always been chicken to mess with the frets myself because of the binding. But the real issue is the anemic noiseless J pickup. It’s a POS IMO. The P pickup is ok, but it doesn’t sound as good as what is in my LPB MIM Standard. Once the fret issue is sorted, I’ll replace the pickups and make a concerted effort to bond with it.

The LPB MIM P is great. I got it as NOS from a store up in Redding for $300 in ‘16. I play it a lot. It has Chromes. It’s my only bass with flats.
 
OK. It sounds like you had a dud. It happens once in awhile. Gibson would normally cover that under warranty. I can’t tell where you’re from, but if you’re in the US, and buy through Sweetwater, they have their own warranty program that is two years where they handle everything. They assist with dealing with Gibson or just replace it. I get it though if you Just decided to bale on it when it didn’t work. Hope you give Thunderbirds a try again. I have several and really no issues with any of the Gibsons.
Yes I’ll probably take another stab at one. I did trade it towards a custom shop p bass with jazz neck that I’m currently in love with
 
So what about the PJ pickup configuration ? Love it, hate it, mildly indifferent....? Never played or had one so I ask ...
I'd have to say it's the most popular pu configuration for players. My Glam PJJ used to be a PJ but I recently replaced the J with a Fender Meteoric JJ (essentially a bucker) The JJ has more balls - but many P-bass players like only the split P pu. Adding a bridge pu gives one more tonal options. Apples & oranges. There's unproven controversy about a J at the bridge (when turned off!) corrupts a 'true' P sound... :rolleyes:
 
So what about the PJ pickup configuration ? Love it, hate it, mildly indifferent....? Never played or had one so I ask ...
It’s ok. Not as great as humbuckers, but the J can add a bit of color/bite to the tone if you want it. The J alone sounds like a J bass when only the bridge pickup is played. Absolutely not my thing at all.
 
Ishibashi has a few including this:

Good colour - looks to be coral. Good price too - for a relatively rare bass it's pretty affordable.

Here's an early '80s pic of its creator John Page in Fenders back lot playing an early prototype w/standard Fender hs.
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...and here's a Florida collector of them (a tb member) holding one of those early '80s prototypes - this one with the Fender/Schaller Elite fine-tuning bridge.
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The PJ Mustang is the model from when they reinstated the Mustang in the lineup in about ‘14 (before that there was a Squire Mustang, but I think it had the traditional pickup). It kind of reignited short scales as a thing and was a hit so they started making other Mustang models with different pickup configurations. I bought it when they came out for like $449.00. It came with cut 7250s (they didn’t even bother to load short scale strings on them). The tuners were horrible so I replaced them with Hipshots. It’s a nice bass now, decent 1.5 but width neck, and sounds great to me. I like the pickups enough to not think about changing them.

The surf green PJ is one that I have never bonded with. I bought it new in ‘15. I like the looks of the color and the tuxedo J neck on it. It developed a bad case of sprout early on and I’ve always been chicken to mess with the frets myself because of the binding. But the real issue is the anemic noiseless J pickup. It’s a POS IMO. The P pickup is ok, but it doesn’t sound as good as what is in my LPB MIM Standard. Once the fret issue is sorted, I’ll replace the pickups and make a concerted effort to bond with it.

The LPB MIM P is great. I got it as NOS from a store up in Redding for $300 in ‘16. I play it a lot. It has Chromes. It’s my only bass with flats.
As far as P pu's go, the EMG Geezer Butler (passive) as well as the Fender PV64 are both very good.