Thunderbird Club

[Count Bassie]

Gasp! GASP!!

They're located just outside Toronto eh. They make Traynor amps. Now go and stand in the corner...

*snicker*

The amp has a more or less standard passive tone stack but with a sweepable mid-frequency, a 'scoop' circuit (leave well alone) and a 'resonance' control which affects (iirc) the negative feedback into the power stage. In reality this adds more 'boom', so you can go from tight and 'modern' to full-on 'old school'. There is a switchable DI out, tuner out etc and it will drive everything down to 2Ω.

My Yamaha PB-1 has the same basic layout. Passive tone stack, sweepable parametric mid. And sounds like tubes, but clean... I like that setup a lot. No dirt, got a pedal for that. Only using it to add mid-heft to my old, revived acoustic 136 combo... someday maybe it will get put in front of an all-tube power amp.

Some people complain that it's hard to get a clean sound out of it -- it was designed that way. Others find it overly bright, but they probably try to EQ it like an SS amp and play a Jazz.

Thanks for the overview on that amp, @kat888 .

 

[Off-Beat]

Nice! I don't know if you've spent any time listening to Gov't Mule/Allen Woody... but you just described his sound to a "T"! He was all about the deep, woody, overdriven Gibson sound! I gotta have one now!!!

... but I need another T-bird... and I wanna fretless... and...

TBirds are a curse.

 

[Count Bassie]

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Nice. Looks a bit like an old Hofner Club Bass I'm angling for.

 

[nismaniac]

Nice! I don't know if you've spent any time listening to Gov't Mule/Allen Woody... but you just described his sound to a "T"! He was all about the deep, woody, overdriven Gibson sound! I gotta have one now!!!

... but I need another T-bird... and I wanna fretless... and...

Yep, huge Mule/Woody fan from back when they first started it up, safe to say I was obsessed for quite a few years. Always admired the model and I'm proud that it's been in production for 17 years now! That says really says something and now that I finally have one in my hands, I can see why.

 

[kat888]

*snicker*

My Yamaha PB-1 has the same basic layout. Passive tone stack, sweepable parametric mid. And sounds like tubes, but clean... I like that setup a lot. No dirt, got a pedal for that. Only using it to add mid-heft to my old, revived acoustic 136 combo... someday maybe it will get put in front of an all-tube power amp.

Thanks for the overview on that amp, @kat888 .

Cheers. I used to GAS for an Ampeg V4B -- not since the Traynor.

My backup/fly rig is a preamp/DI which lives on my pedalboard. But people should only do that after they have a Traynor.

 

[rodv66]

They do if they want to use the dressing rooms again, eh Scott?



Gasp! GASP!!

They're located just outside Toronto eh. They make Traynor amps. Now go and stand in the corner.



@Nocturnal, yeah they should be giving them to me.

That looks like a decent price. It's showing as AUD620 and I paid AUD850 for mine. One thing to be aware of is the YBA200 has an auto-bias circuit which I heard could be problematic (mine has been modded to remove the auto-bias). [update: this was removed in the YBA200-2.]

The amp has a more or less standard passive tone stack but with a sweepable mid-frequency, a 'scoop' circuit (leave well alone) and a 'resonance' control which affects (iirc) the negative feedback into the power stage. In reality this adds more 'boom', so you can go from tight and 'modern' to full-on 'old school'. There is a switchable DI out, tuner out etc and it will drive everything down to 2Ω.

Some people complain that it's hard to get a clean sound out of it -- it was designed that way. Others find it overly bright, but they probably try to EQ it like an SS amp and play a Jazz.

2-10-2 (TMB) is as about close as you get to flat. I run the mid freq 'range' at zero to give a bit of a low mid boost, 2-10-10 and the resonance control to taste.

What else? They weigh a trifling 19kg, in part thanks to the toroidal power and output transformers.

400w A4 ohms for 150$. Might be a good backup

 

[kat888]

TBirds are a curse.

Not such a bad curse eh.

'I damn you to Hell'

'I damn you to TBirds'

Most of Gen-Pop would probably choose Hell.

400w A4 ohms for 150$. Might be a good backup

The SS amps are well thought of as well. Try the Yorkville/Traynor Club. It's a little quiet but you'll find useful info and helpful people who aren't putting on any airs and graces.

 

[theFixer]

That's the kid. Invalid Link Removed

watch out german, but it's self explainatory.

About your T-Bird. Did you take the neck off? Maybe there are some finish problems in the pocket/neckjoint and it's basically not "full contact".

regarding the drums... yup... that's pretty much the kit I had (except I had added a 10" tom, and mine were red). I remember I hated the snare drum, but I always preferred steel & brass shelled snares over wood. I would get rid of those Remo Pinstripe heads. They always sound dull & "thuddy". I always used Remo Coated Ambassadors. The coating chokes the over-ring out, but the single ply medium thick skins, would allow the tone & character of the drum to come through (If you want help tuning your drums, lemme know). The Sabian XS cymbal is one of their newer alloys, so I can't vouch for it. To my knowledge, the Meinl Razors were only sold in starter packs. Don't let the term "starter pack" scare you off. Cymbal manufacturers never put their premier series stuff in starter packs, but just cuz it's a starter pack, doesn't mean it's not good. Use your eyes, ears & gut show you the way. I have never played on Meinls. I was always curious about them, but finding stateside dealers was tough. I can tell you this though... the only people I've ever seen using them, were "world beat" and top-notch jazz musicians (do with that what you will). Consider this... it's a complete kit, ready to play WITH a throne (ya never see that), for HALF of your budget. Since it's a private individual... bring cash. You may just talk him down even more. I'm not trying to push you into anything... I'm just trying to help you see it from all sides.

As for my 'bird... I've not had the neck off. Right now we're still getting to know each other. I'm thankful for what I have, and am enjoying it now with the doctoring I've done. I'll keep your idea in my pocket though. Thanks!

 

[theFixer]

TBirds are a curse.

Nay... a blessing my good man!

 

[Off-Beat]

regarding the drums... yup... that's pretty much the kit I had (except I had added a 10" tom, and mine were red). I remember I hated the snare drum, but I always preferred steel & brass shelled snares over wood. I would get rid of those Remo Pinstripe heads. They always sound dull & "thuddy". I always used Remo Coated Ambassadors. The coating chokes the over-ring out, but the single ply medium thick skins, would allow the tone & character of the drum to come through (If you want help tuning your drums, lemme know). The Sabian XS cymbal is one of their newer alloys, so I can't vouch for it. To my knowledge, the Meinl Razors were only sold in starter packs. Don't let the term "starter pack" scare you off. Cymbal manufacturers never put their premier series stuff in starter packs, but just cuz it's a starter pack, doesn't mean it's not good. Use your eyes, ears & gut show you the way. I have never played on Meinls. I was always curious about them, but finding stateside dealers was tough. I can tell you this though... the only people I've ever seen using them, were "world beat" and top-notch jazz musicians (do with that what you will). Consider this... it's a complete kit, ready to play WITH a throne (ya never see that), for HALF of your budget. Since it's a private individual... bring cash. You may just talk him down even more. I'm not trying to push you into anything... I'm just trying to help you see it from all sides.

As for my 'bird... I've not had the neck off. Right now we're still getting to know each other. I'm thankful for what I have, and am enjoying it now with the doctoring I've done. I'll keep your idea in my pocket though. Thanks!

The 4hour drive through alpine roads is still off putting, but I'll consider it.

 

[godofthunder59]

Scott

Lol well I can be a bit of a diva, I have been known to refuse to play till they put a mic in front of my cab.

 

[theFixer]

The 4hour drive through alpine roads is still off putting, but I'll consider it.

Crap! That sounds like fun to me! Especially on a motor cycle, at high speeds! (I suppose you won't be on a motorcycle if there's a chance you'll be coming' home with a drum set...)

 

[godofthunder59]

Not such a bad curse eh.

'I damn you to Hell'

'I damn you to TBirds'

Most of Gen-Pop would probably choose Hell.



The SS amps are well thought of as well. Try the Yorkville/Traynor Club. It's a little quiet but you'll find useful info and helpful people who aren't putting on any airs and graces.

I love Traynor amps!

 

[rodv66]

Not such a bad curse eh.

'I damn you to Hell'

'I damn you to TBirds'

Most of Gen-Pop would probably choose Hell.



The SS amps are well thought of as well. Try the Yorkville/Traynor Club. It's a little quiet but you'll find useful info and helpful people who aren't putting on any airs and graces.

Looks like you get a lot of features for your money.

 

[Off-Beat]

Nay... a blessing my good man!

Not for ones budget.

Not such a bad curse eh.

'I damn you to Hell'

'I damn you to TBirds'

Most of Gen-Pop would probably choose Hell.

I'd prefer 'I bird you to hell', but I imagine hell like a non stop p-bass s&p circle jerk.

 

[Off-Beat]

Crap! That sounds like fun to me! Especially on a motor cycle, at high speeds! (I suppose you won't be on a motorcycle if there's a chance you'll be coming' home with a drum set...)

I could tow it to the rear fender. Would be its first stresstest, but yeah biking is big fun here.

 

[theFixer]

Not such a bad curse eh.

'I damn you to Hell'

'I damn you to TBirds'

Most of Gen-Pop would probably choose Hell.



The SS amps are well thought of as well. Try the Yorkville/Traynor Club. It's a little quiet but you'll find useful info and helpful people who aren't putting on any airs and graces.

God knows I wasn't lookin' for another place to put the money I don't even have yet... but this 'bird has me thinkin' about a tube amp. I've wanted a GK for about a hunnerd years... I finally got one a couple months ago, and I've loved it to death... but I can't help but imagine what the deep warm tone of this 'bird would sound like through tubes...drool

 

[Off-Beat]

God knows I wasn't lookin' for another place to put the money I don't even have yet... but this 'bird has me thinkin' about a tube amp. I've wanted a GK for about a hunnerd years... I finally got one a couple months ago, and I've loved it to death... but I can't help but imagine what the deep warm tone of this 'bird would sound like through tubes...drool

Get a Fusion, best of both worlds.

 

[theFixer]

Not for ones budget.



I'd prefer 'I bird you to hell', but I imagine hell like a non stop p-bass s&p circle jerk.

That just means your budget needs a little adjusting. Try the one I recently started using. It goes like this (in order of priority):

Family - whatever's needed
T-birds - everything that's left
other - fuggit

Follow this simple plan & everything will fall into place!

 

[theFixer]

Get a Fusion, best of both worlds.

I just looked up the Fusion. I'm sure it's amazing... but I would most likely put a tube pre in front of my MB210 if I was gonna go hybrid. Which ain't a bad idea...