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Thunderbird Club

#34,661
ProgressiveDoom said:
I can only equate the Explorer shape with 80's metal as in that time I was a teenager and Metal was and is still a major influence in my life. I lump the V's and the Tbirds into that time period as well, I think any Metal head from that period feels the same way. Ironically I stayed away from any of these models strictly because they had that Metal stigma attached to them and I always naturally seemed to buck the trends. But!, it is only since I became a part of the Bird life and the Gibson/Epiphone family that I have learned the history and understood the design philosophies that I can now look further past my initial feelings on what these instruments are. I see them with more of an open mind now with the knowledge Ive gained from all of the well educated Thunderbird Club members here.View attachment 1168220
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Funny, I heard the Flying V guitar being recommended for those wanting to play slide. Which I equate to Blues/BluesRock more than metal.
 
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Off-Beat said:
Will do. After looking atall the kits for hours now, reading review and most importantly asking here it will come down to the Export, Rydeen or Gretsch energy for me. I really have no clue, but it seems likely all knowledge sources combined they're the best in that range.



The used market here is useless. The only real ok kit was a Sonor Force 2000 for 500€ including paiste cymbals - 2hours drive - one way.
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That's too bad. I really like old Japanese stencil kits. Somebody just saved me from myself and saved me from the justifiable wrath of my wife by buying a "Made in Japan" kit that was for sale locally. The brand was "Made in Japan" with a star, which means it was made by what became Tama. Most of those old Japanese kits are trashed, but this one was in outstanding condition, and it was a red crinkle looking wrap and had a pretty nice rail type rack tom mounting system. Two rack toms, so it was a rock and roll kit, not a jazz kit. I already have a Reuther (Pearl stencil) kit from the same late '60s era of cheap Japanese everything that's blue and uses tom mounts similar to Rogers mounts. I play it all the time, and think of it as my main kit. It has been all over the place, and been to some kinda sketchy dive bars on occasion. So far so good. I got the Reuther kit for $250, and probably could have got the Made in Japan kit for $200. Never mind that I have nowhere to put it. That kind of obscure weirdness is my drum version of 'Birds. The last thing I need is another drum kit.
You can't beat a decent Gretch kit though. Pearl Exports are excellent, but if you can get the same kit built for/by Gretsch, you will probably be happy with it. I think a lot about what wood it's made out of. Luan/mahogany tend to be warmer and darker. Maple tends to be more crisp and have a brighter, sharper attack. Think jazz for mahogany and heavy metal for maple, just to be extreme about it.
 
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#34,663
Off-Beat said:
Talking about Allen Woody. There's a B-Stock Rumble Kat at thomann. Worth it for 360€(380 or something $)? Love the looks and so I get something different, which is not an FSO.



Usually they're pretty good at the sustain department. Any setup issues?



My grandmother thought Elvis was the devil, while she was actually in the right age group. Goes to show..



Some of you guys drum, right?

We kicked out our drummer and it started to become some weird on/off relationship afterwards. So we decided we'll record the album(s) ourselves, but we need to get a kit. Any tips for a 700-1000§ kit including hardware? We were eyeing a Yamaha Rydeen first, but I read reviews that it ain't that great.
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Second hand info but when my mate was buying his son a new Drumset for a 21st birthday present, all the young guy wanted was Tama.
 
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RedVee said:
Funny, I heard the Flying V guitar being recommended for those wanting to play slide. Which I equate to Blues/BluesRock more than metal.
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Yeah... the V is something special. It's definitely the presentation that makes the difference with the V. A lotta manufacturers who make their own version of a V, are what give it the metal association. Albert King played a V. I ain't gonna argue the validity of a V in the blues:cool:
 
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theFixer said:
Yeah... the V is something special. It's definitely the presentation that makes the difference with the V. A lotta manufacturers who make their own version of a V, are what give it the metal association. Albert King played a V. I ain't gonna argue the validity of a V in the blues:cool:
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I think Randy Rhoads gave the V it's metal association.
 
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theFixer said:
Yeah... I'm sure he gets a big piece o' that pie:thumbsup:

Followed by Rudolph Schenker
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I think brother Michael may object! The long haired V slinging blonde MADE UFO, even if I wish Pete Way had.
 
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Korladis said:
As far as duos go, I much prefer early Om and Year of the Cobra.
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cheers-emoji.pngCheers to OM!.
 
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theFixer said:
Nah man... that's cool. I'm sure you have your own "flashback" tunes. Songs that take you back to a certain point in your life that sticks out for reasons you & I will never understand. I'm not a Billy Joel fan... and I don't even know if Gerry Raferty ever had any other songs! I just know it's a surprise trip in the way-back machine anytime those particular tunes hit my ears.:thumbsup:
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Yep its not even about the way the song is constructed,witch musician is performing something spectacular or even how very laid back and bland the song is. It is all about the sound of the song.
 
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godofthunder59 said:
Lol well I can be a bit of a diva, I have been known to refuse to play till they put a mic in front of my cab.
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Seems reasonable to me.

Off-Beat said:
Get a Fusion, best of both worlds.
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Honestly I think I'd prefer a more regular GK preamp going into a tube power amp.

RedVee said:
Funny, I heard the Flying V guitar being recommended for those wanting to play slide. Which I equate to Blues/BluesRock more than metal.
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Blues guys used it before metal players did.
 
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#34,675
kat888 said:
@Nocturnal, yeah they should be giving them to me.

That looks like a decent price. It's showing as AUD620 and I paid AUD850 for mine. One thing to be aware of is the YBA200 has an auto-bias circuit which I heard could be problematic (mine has been modded to remove the auto-bias). [update: this was removed in the YBA200-2.]

The amp has a more or less standard passive tone stack but with a sweepable mid-frequency, a 'scoop' circuit (leave well alone) and a 'resonance' control which affects (iirc) the negative feedback into the power stage. In reality this adds more 'boom', so you can go from tight and 'modern' to full-on 'old school'. There is a switchable DI out, tuner out etc and it will drive everything down to 2Ω.

Some people complain that it's hard to get a clean sound out of it -- it was designed that way. Others find it overly bright, but they probably try to EQ it like an SS amp and play a Jazz.

2-10-2 (TMB) is as about close as you get to flat. I run the mid freq 'range' at zero to give a bit of a low mid boost, 2-10-10 and the resonance control to taste.

What else? They weigh a trifling 19kg, in part thanks to the toroidal power and output transformers.
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That 2-10-2, that's the Fender setup? Guessing my Eminar is the same.
Is your example 2-10-10 because I (mis?)-understood your comment to be mids at 0 ?
I'm just looking to short cut my experimentations. :)

theFixer said:
God knows I wasn't lookin' for another place to put the money I don't even have yet... but this 'bird has me thinkin' about a tube amp. I've wanted a GK for about a hunnerd years... I finally got one a couple months ago, and I've loved it to death... but I can't help but imagine what the deep warm tone of this 'bird would sound like through tubes...drool
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Mine is very nice through my 100w tubester, only at 'indoor voice' so far :(
 
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RedVee said:
That 2-10-2, that's the Fender setup? Guessing my Eminar is the same.
Is your example 2-10-10 because I (mis?)-understood your comment to be mids at 0 ?
I'm just looking to short cut my experimentations.
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All passive tone stacks are essentially the same.

2-10-10 (looking at the YBA200 front panel = T-M-B) is treble on 2 (9 oclock) and mid and bass maxed. The starting point is *always* max the mids.
 
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