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Thunderbird Club

Pretty, but way too steep for what it is.
400+ posts later to say "it ain't that special". That's Mike Lull money for a production line bass with no dogs and no pickguard. My Goff doesn't have a pick guard and it had a pro bridge. Worth a grand now, at least...right?
 
My understanding is that they're the same pickups. The bridge pickup sounds a lot cooler to me than the neck pickup on this bass, but I could be full of it :)

New strings, raise the pickups.

When I first had two EYGP pups in my Epi, I started out by adjusting the pup heights to 'balance' the output between the pair, cranking the bridge way up and dropping the neck right down (tbh this was not helped by me buying a pair of the higher output 'bridge' pups -- hotter = gooder).

That robbed the bass of all 'aggression' and what have you, it was 'balanced' and poilte -- more of a small slightly apologetic piano. So y'know, fvck balance! The bridge pup was cranked right up high until it sounded throaty and cross. Now the bass has a single Thunderbucker 66S sounding throatier and crosser -- like you cut in on a dozen New Yorkers at a sandwich counter.
 
All this has me back to my other think. Another Epi Classic pro, mod it. But still on the fence, gonna wait a bit, The redo of my current Epi has me quite happy, so no need for me to rush into anything.

But all that nickel..... Mind you, if the VP pups are not up to snuff, I can see one becoming a Thunderbird II in short order.
 
New strings, raise the pickups.

When I first had two EYGP pups in my Epi, I started out by adjusting the pup heights to 'balance' the output between the pair, cranking the bridge way up and dropping the neck right down (tbh this was not helped by me buying a pair of the higher output 'bridge' pups -- hotter = gooder).

That robbed the bass of all 'aggression' and what have you, it was 'balanced' and poilte -- more of a small slightly apologetic piano. So y'know, fvck balance! The bridge pup was cranked right up high until it sounded throaty and cross. Now the bass has a single Thunderbucker 66S sounding throatier and crosser -- like you cut in on a dozen New Yorkers at a sandwich counter.

You'd be the only one that i know who could actually get away with, ("like you cut in on a dozen New Yorkers at a sandwich counter."), and with respect.
 
No, I'm absolutely with you on that! When it came out, I played in constantly, just as I had done with The Warning and did with O:M. Still play today. Happily, they are still pulling songs from it for the setlist today since Todd took over vocals.
At that time when Thrash metal and Harcore ruled I was living right in between them and couldnt have been more content with just listening to those genres alone but a friend had Rage For Order given to him as a promotional copy and he didnt like it so he gave it to me and obviously at that time and that frame of mind I probably shouldnt have liked it either but ended up loving it. I became a Queensryche fan that summer and followed them for a good length afterwards.
 
New strings, raise the pickups.

When I first had two EYGP pups in my Epi, I started out by adjusting the pup heights to 'balance' the output between the pair, cranking the bridge way up and dropping the neck right down (tbh this was not helped by me buying a pair of the higher output 'bridge' pups -- hotter = gooder).

That robbed the bass of all 'aggression' and what have you, it was 'balanced' and poilte -- more of a small slightly apologetic piano. So y'know, fvck balance! The bridge pup was cranked right up high until it sounded throaty and cross. Now the bass has a single Thunderbucker 66S sounding throatier and crosser -- like you cut in on a dozen New Yorkers at a sandwich counter.
The second half of your reply is.......BRAVO!...:hyper:....YEAH!.... :bassist:....Well done, perfectly and passionately explained.:thumbsup:
 
It's returnable...still deciding. The setup is bad, so I'm tweaking it a bit. Also gotta try different strings.

Positives-
If you love super lightweight basses, this is certainly that. I'm not really sensitive about weight for the most part.

It looks pretty darn cool if you like that 60's vibe, which I do.

It's dirt cheap.

Negatives-

It feels a bit cheap to me. I was hoping to get in the sonic ballpark of a TBird and I lean toward the 'angry piano' sound. The bridge pickup gets kinda sorta there but the front pickup is kinda muddy and dull sounding, to me, at least. Might need to raise em up more. I've heard real 60's Embassy's that sound glorious to me, which made me pull the trigger in the first place.

If it grows on me, the price is cheap enough to justify better pickups, so that remains to be seen.

I'm not heartbroken or nothin. It's a super cheap bass :)
I know everyone on TB loves light basses, but because when I was growing up most cheap basses were super light, I have this weird physical/mental association of lightweight bass bodies with cheapness.
 
Threads are no longer limited by pages or number of posts, I'll look forward to you posting some shots of your new lovely and giving you a club number as soon as it arrives, jump on in with us, be welcome here, we're a friendly group. :)

Ask, and ye shall recieve! Apologies for the dodgy camera work...
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But all that nickel..... Mind you, if the VP pups are not up to snuff, I can see one becoming a Thunderbird II in short order.
There won't be any nickel on the new Epis, just cheap chrome. Most customers wouldn't appreciate the difference anyway.
 

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