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I have driven in lots of places. That includes a stint as a NYC cab driver (back when they had big ol' Checker cabs). It includes Sydney, Australia, Aukland, NZ, Oslo, London, Boston, LA, Seattle, Chicago, Vancouver, BC, Houston, Miami, Ontario, and a whole lot of other places. I'm 100% convinced that the worst drivers on the planet are in the Pacific Northwest, whether that means Portland, Seattle, or Vancouver. They are fast asleep. When they wake up, they are passive aggressive. And most of the time, they can't anticipate anything except how to speed up and cut off merging traffic without looking over. And then there's behavior at an all-way stop. It's all I can do to avoid going all cab driver sometimes.

Well, i can attest to the PDX drivers, and that was from '93-'97, and then from '02-'07, can't imagine what it's like now.
 
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I have driven in lots of places. That includes a stint as a NYC cab driver (back when they had big ol' Checker cabs). It includes Sydney, Australia, Aukland, NZ, Oslo, London, Boston, LA, Seattle, Chicago, Vancouver, BC, Houston, Miami, Ontario, and a whole lot of other places. I'm 100% convinced that the worst drivers on the planet are in the Pacific Northwest, whether that means Portland, Seattle, or Vancouver. They are fast asleep. When they wake up, they are passive aggressive. And most of the time, they can't anticipate anything except how to speed up and cut off merging traffic without looking over. And then there's behavior at an all-way stop. It's all I can do to avoid going all cab driver sometimes.
Sounds like here!
Couple months ago I was at an all-way stop (3 roads). I was turning left, there was a short bus across from me who had the right of way. As he was going, I started to creep forward to turn behind him. The idiot behind the bus decides that stop signs are actually traffic lights, and just followed the bus without stopping. Luckily I saw him before pulling out too far into the intersection. I was in my Shortbox Chevy at the time, woulda been a good way to get a new fender that it needs!
 
Well, i can attest to the PDX drivers, and that was from '93-'97, and then from '02-'07, can't imagine what it's like now.
Worse. I have lived in Seattle since 1987. The soporific behavior hasn't changed, but there's just a whole lot more people. Plus cell phones. I have had to kick cars who thought changing lanes into a motorcycle without looking was a fine idea. It kinda wakes 'em up, but they usually just get self-righteous about the fact that you objected to their attempts at negligent homicide.
 
Worse. I have lived in Seattle since 1987. The soporific behavior hasn't changed, but there's just a whole lot more people. Plus cell phones. I have had to kick cars who thought changing lanes into a motorcycle without looking was a fine idea. It kinda wakes 'em up, but they usually just get self-righteous about the fact that you objected to their attempts at negligent homicide.

Same when i was living in L.A., on my Kawi. Someone took me out one day though. No broken bones at least.
 
If you want me to sit quietly on the "naughty step", you just gotta say that! ;)

I have driven in lots of places. That includes a stint as a NYC cab driver (back when they had big ol' Checker cabs). It includes Sydney, Australia, Aukland, NZ, Oslo, London, Boston, LA, Seattle, Chicago, Vancouver, BC, Houston, Miami, Ontario, and a whole lot of other places. I'm 100% convinced that the worst drivers on the planet are in the Pacific Northwest, whether that means Portland, Seattle, or Vancouver. They are fast asleep. When they wake up, they are passive aggressive. And most of the time, they can't anticipate anything except how to speed up and cut off merging traffic without looking over. And then there's behavior at an all-way stop. It's all I can do to avoid going all cab driver sometimes.


I have a reverse commute to Tacoma, which probably saves my sanity. I'd be in jail in less than a week if I had to drive into Seattle.
As it is, I can often get the car into cruise control at 70mph on the way south in the morning, northbound in the evening is about the same except between Federal Way and Des Moines - there it's nothing to make 85mph in the left lane. :)
 
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"On request" so I'd assume if Thomann's can get one in, so can every other dealer.

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I have a reverse commute to Tacoma, which probably saves my sanity. I'd be in jail in less than a week if I had to drive into Seattle.
As it is, I can often get the car into cruise control at 70mph on the way south in the morning, northbound in the evening is about the same except between Federal Way and Des Moines - there it's nothing to make 85mph in the left lane. :)
I use carpool lanes and express lanes on the bike. In the van, driving is an exercise in Zen. I'm not naturally very Zen, so riding the bike is a better idea. Plus, lane splitting. It's not exactly legal, but sometimes it allows progress when nothing else does. And, it's fun.
 
I have a reverse commute to Tacoma, which probably saves my sanity. I'd be in jail in less than a week if I had to drive into Seattle.

I once had to get from SeaTac to Silverdale. Nobody told me until later that I could have driven into Seattle and got on a ferry. Instead I drove through rush hour traffic, south to Tacoma and then North round the other side to Silverdale. The interesting thing about that trip, or the interesting fact, is that I got on, (what turned out to have been), the last plane out of SeaTac, (back to the UK), before the US authorities "closed the skies" after some very deranged people decided it would make sense, (to them at least), to fly commercial airliners into buildings....... Which somewhat sours the memory of what was otherwise a very pleasant trip!
 
I once had to get from SeaTac to Silverdale. Nobody told me until later that I could have driven into Seattle and got on a ferry. Instead I drove through rush hour traffic, south to Tacoma and then North round the other side to Silverdale. The interesting thing about that trip, or the interesting fact, is that I got on, (what turned out to have been), the last plane out of SeaTac, (back to the UK), before the US authorities "closed the skies" after some very deranged people decided it would make sense, (to them at least), to fly commercial airliners into buildings....... Which somewhat sours the memory of what was otherwise a very pleasant trip!
I had a high school friend on one of those planes. He was working for ESPN. A sad day indeed.
 
I had a high school friend on one of those planes. He was working for ESPN. A sad day indeed.
Indeed! And I hope noone thinks I was being flippant with the way I wrote what I did. I was deliberately trying to leave religion and politics out of it, rather than in any way make light of it. It affected me! The thought that I was in the air, in a commercial plane, at the time those events were unfolding, is something that still causes me to pause for thought, as well as remembering those not as fortunate as myself to have "walked away" from that day.
 
You can only own one of these 2 purple beauties...... Which would you prefer and why? (Don't forget, free speech is OK as long as you don't use the word UGLY, unless you already own the son-of-a-Afro-Cuban-percussion-instrument, whose name shall not be spoken in the same sentence as the word "ugly"! ;))
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I've never been fond of sparkle finishes, so I'd go with the Bongo but I'd rather have the Queens purple tigerbird.

All this talk of driving pains - I live in the LA area where the highways have two speeds and nothing in between. In rush hour you can sit dead stopped in an eight lane wide twenty mile long parking lot and then 1 minute after rush hour ends the flag drops and it's eight lanes of bumper to bumper traffic all moving at 85mph (except for the bikers who lane split at anything less than 100mph). It's the closest thing to NASCAR bump drafting that I've experienced. If you're in the left or HOV lane you better know where your exit is 5 miles in advance or you'll never get over there in time. And never use your turn signal for lane changes, that just highlights that you're not from around here and invites the cars in the next lane over to close the gap. But the back roads and canyons are pure heaven.