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Thunderbird Club

Sad news to report: Malcolm Young has passed away this morning at 64.

Even tho I have never been much of an AC/DC fan I can appreciate Malcolm Young and what he did for that band. I would agree with the underrated comment for sure. RIP Mr. Young.

As a young Aussie who grew up in the same general part of Sydney, and who has followed them since Baby Please Don’t Go and getting the High Voltage Album on casssette... it is very sad news. Even though it was not unexpected, it still surprised.

AC/DC co-founder and guitarist Malcolm Young dies aged 64 - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Last night I saw JPY* and the Allstars doing a “Vanda & Young Songbook” celebrating the songs of Malcolm’s brother George who passed away only a month or so ago.

*JPY is John Paul Young, no relation, who career was formed by singing Vanda Young written and produced songs. He and the Allstar were the backing band for Stevie Wright during his brief post Easybeats career, the highest point being Evie parts 1,2 & 3. Rumoured that the young Young brothers were co-opted to work on this project as well, for experience; and that Malcolm Young played the lead guitar solo on Evie part 1.

I won’t go on any further, I’m a little bit sadder than I really should be.
 
I dunno if that was aimed at me or Larry... but it's worth noting that I haven't done that since I found out what an inconvenience it was to some of my brothers & sisters here. It's also worth noting that I refrain from posting about 2/3 of the responses that leap into my mind, simply to reduce "clutter". I still don't like multi-quoting... and would rather exercise restraint, than use it. It's cool though. It ain't MY house... it's OUR house;)

IMHO... this is the appropriate way to use multi-quote. One response to several posts. Again... this is ONLY MY OPINION. I have nothing but respect and admiration for our Queen, and she has made it crystal clear that she supports the use of multi-quote in the manor in which we here, are most familiar. I have made the conscious choice, to restrain myself, as opposed to using a feature I'm uncomfortable with. If any of you feel I'm not doing an adequate job of doing so... a polite tap on the shoulder via PM is certainly welcome. No reasonable request will be refused:thumbsup:

I was just trying to razz ya’ a bit and I didn’t mean for it to be anything but funny. I see now that I missed that mark and that I’ve struck a cord that I didn’t intend and for that you have my sincerest apology.
 
Should the VP pups be disappointing, the Thunderbucker 66S will likely be transplanted to the VP, which will become yet another II. The Epi will then get an Alumitone, which would satisfy that particular avenue of intrigue.
If the Epi loses its frets, then it's just another example of why we are clearly twins. If it doesn't, then it's proof that you are the much younger twin.
 
Please forgive the additional Thundernoob questions, but let's play a little game of would you rather:

Would you rather buy:

-A cheap used bolt-on Epi TBird and deck it out with Lollars or whatever the most Thunderbirdiest aftermarket pickups are out there (by the way, is there a consensus here for the greatest drop-in replacements for the Epis?)

-A Classic IV and use the stock pickups

I'm trying to wrap my head around the options and find a nice sweet spot for starting out with one. I don't mind spending more later on a Gibson after I spend time with the design, but Id like to minimize the investment upfront as much as possible without sabotaging the experience.
 
Please forgive the additional Thundernoob questions, but let's play a little game of would you rather:

Would you rather buy:

-A cheap used bolt-on Epi TBird and deck it out with Lollars or whatever the most Thunderbirdiest aftermarket pickups are out there (by the way, is there a consensus here for the greatest drop-in replacements for the Epis?)

-A Classic IV and use the stock pickups

I'm trying to wrap my head around the options and find a nice sweet spot for starting out with one. I don't mind spending more later on a Gibson after I spend time with the design, but Id like to minimize the investment upfront as much as possible without sabotaging the experience.
The Classic will give you a much better idea of what a Gibson will be like. I'm sure a lot of people will even suggest just get both, and forget about getting a Gibson at all.
 
Please forgive the additional Thundernoob questions, but let's play a little game of would you rather:

Would you rather buy:

-A cheap used bolt-on Epi TBird and deck it out with Lollars or whatever the most Thunderbirdiest aftermarket pickups are out there (by the way, is there a consensus here for the greatest drop-in replacements for the Epis?)

-A Classic IV and use the stock pickups

I'm trying to wrap my head around the options and find a nice sweet spot for starting out with one. I don't mind spending more later on a Gibson after I spend time with the design, but Id like to minimize the investment upfront as much as possible without sabotaging the experience.

A chromed out Alpine White Classic Pro would be awesome IMHO. Don’t get me wrong, it is awesome stock but the chroming would take it to 11!
 
Please forgive the additional Thundernoob questions, but let's play a little game of would you rather:

Would you rather buy:

-A cheap used bolt-on Epi TBird and deck it out with Lollars or whatever the most Thunderbirdiest aftermarket pickups are out there (by the way, is there a consensus here for the greatest drop-in replacements for the Epis?)

-A Classic IV and use the stock pickups

I'm trying to wrap my head around the options and find a nice sweet spot for starting out with one. I don't mind spending more later on a Gibson after I spend time with the design, but Id like to minimize the investment upfront as much as possible without sabotaging the experience.

I am a fan of neck through - not just `birds but all things. Next choice is set neck (don't think there are any `birds in that category except the studio V).

The Classic will give you a much better idea of what a Gibson will be like. I'm sure a lot of people will even suggest just get both, and forget about getting a Gibson at all.

I don't own a Gibson `bird so I can't comment directly. BUt I am very satisfied with the build quality and performance of all my Epiphone products compared to Gibsons.

I have my Classic Pro strung BEAD and tuned C. No issues.

Tuning is all a matter of selecting appropriate strings...
 
Please forgive the additional Thundernoob questions, but let's play a little game of would you rather:

Would you rather buy:

-A cheap used bolt-on Epi TBird and deck it out with Lollars or whatever the most Thunderbirdiest aftermarket pickups are out there (by the way, is there a consensus here for the greatest drop-in replacements for the Epis?)

-A Classic IV and use the stock pickups

I'm trying to wrap my head around the options and find a nice sweet spot for starting out with one. I don't mind spending more later on a Gibson after I spend time with the design, but Id like to minimize the investment upfront as much as possible without sabotaging the experience.

If it were me, and I didn't have the scratch for a 60s/70s Gobby Bird (don't and likely never will), I would look out for a used Classic as a starting point. I do have a 6 screw neck Non-reverse, but it wasn't particularly cheap. It was the pickup in that bass which led me to order a(nother) Thunderbucker 66S for my Epi (formerly PRO IV) neck through -- which brings me to your question about pickups.

There are many marvellous aftermarket replacement/reproduction pickups at a variety of prices as well as Gibson/Epi pups floating around on the used market. It really is a matter of taste.
 
I am a fan of neck through - not just `birds but all things. Next choice is set neck (don't think there are any `birds in that category except the studio V).



I don't own a Gibson `bird so I can't comment directly. BUt I am very satisfied with the build quality and performance of all my Epiphone products compared to Gibsons.



Tuning is all a matter of selecting appropriate strings...

Part 1) Agreed! But I think the Studio IV is a set neck as well

2) I just got my first Epi bass today so I too cannot comment on the comparison directly

3) Not completely true. My beat Jay Turser bass has heavy strings on it and tuned D Standard sometimes Drop C, but the neck, more so the truss rod, doesn't have enough strength to have the neck straight.
 
Please forgive the additional Thundernoob questions, but let's play a little game of would you rather:

Would you rather buy:

-A cheap used bolt-on Epi TBird and deck it out with Lollars or whatever the most Thunderbirdiest aftermarket pickups are out there (by the way, is there a consensus here for the greatest drop-in replacements for the Epis?)

-A Classic IV and use the stock pickups

I'm trying to wrap my head around the options and find a nice sweet spot for starting out with one. I don't mind spending more later on a Gibson after I spend time with the design, but Id like to minimize the investment upfront as much as possible without sabotaging the experience.

The Classic Pro's are solid, can't go wrong. You can always mod things later, but if you do get one, they're great as is.
 
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If it were me, and I didn't have the scratch for a 60s/70s Gobby Bird (don't and likely never will), I would look out for a used Classic as a starting point. I do have a 6 screw neck Non-reverse, but it wasn't particularly cheap. It was the pickup in that bass which led me to order a(nother) Thunderbucker 66S for my Epi (formerly PRO IV) neck through -- which brings me to your question about pickups.

There are many marvellous aftermarket replacement/reproduction pickups at a variety of prices as well as Gibson/Epi pups floating around on the used market. It really is a matter of taste.

Subjectivity is so time consuming and expensive! I have a drawer full of P Bass pickups as evidence. ;)

A used Classic would be great, if one comes up locally. If I'm going to buy online, I'd just go new and get the return policy.
 
The Gibson Thunderbird NR’s are all set necks and there’s the Studio IV as well.

I did omit the NRs and didn't think to specify studio IV and V.

Part 1) Agreed! But I think the Studio IV is a set neck as well

2) I just got my first Epi bass today so I too cannot comment on the comparison directly

3) Not completely true. My beat Jay Turser bass has heavy strings on it and tuned D Standard sometimes Drop C, but the neck, more so the truss rod, doesn't have enough strength to have the neck straight.

1. as above
2. I am happy with my Gibson but I am also similarly happy with my Epiphones.
3. Agree there can be some weirdness, but it isn't as if the larger strings have higher tension. If you have problems with drop tuning, you are likely having trouble with standard tuning also.
 
Subjectivity is so time consuming and expensive! I have a drawer full of P Bass pickups as evidence. ;)

A used Classic would be great, if one comes up locally. If I'm going to buy online, I'd just go new and get the return policy.

Sam Ash has a Burst one, go check it out.
No affiliation with said store.
 
As a young Aussie who grew up in the same general part of Sydney, and who has followed them since Baby Please Don’t Go and getting the High Voltage Album on casssette... it is very sad news. Even though it was not unexpected, it still surprised.

AC/DC co-founder and guitarist Malcolm Young dies aged 64 - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

... I won’t go on any further, I’m a little bit sadder than I really should be.
Well Sir... I respectfully disagree. You feel how you feel. Your natural reaction is legitimate, and worthy of expression without apology. I understand how you feel though. I too am saddened to hear about Malcomb Young, and don't wish to down-play it at all... but when Tom Petty passed... even I was surprised by how deeply it affected me. I felt "uncomfortably silly" (if that makes any sense) by the depth of my sadness for the passing of "some guy I'd never even met". There's a connection between you and he, through his music. It obviously had relevance and significance in your life. Large or small... a piece of you goes with him. It's only human, to experience a sense of loss... and the depth of that experience, should be proportionate to the significance of that which was lost. It's enough to deal with the loss, without concerning yourself with how "appropriate" your reaction is. The past few years has been REALLY harsh with regards to situations like this. Sadly, you can rest assured, that you are not the only person familiar with what you're feeling right now. You can also rest assured, that you won't be the only one listening to AC/DC records & tippin' a few pints this evening.

To Malcomb...
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