Thunderbird Club

[Chucky Stiletti]

Now sword-throwing (always popular in movies) is nonsense, but stapler throwing? Sounds

Should know'ed that this was the place to come for a concise history of tubes. Obvious, really.

Ha! Well not really, but when one takes into account the fact that Tbirds were played into tube amps before anything else, it kinda becomes relevant in a small way...

 

[veebass]

I don't have the gear to record so I can't back this up, but here is my observation on my new Epi VP.
I have been playing it and my Gibson with the Chinabuckers a lot. I am loving them both.
Both have new strings of the same brand (Fender Nickel Rounds), pickups same distance from strings and all the pots full open except the bridge volume which I always back off a tad.
EQ set flat on amp.

They sound very similar to me- I wouldn't be surprised at all if the pickups are the same or very similar.

The difference I have noticed is small but the Gibson with the Chinabuckers is a little bit bassier and smoother sounding. The VP a little edgier. I could put that down to neck pickup being 20 mm closer to the neck in the Gibson. I also don't now the resistance of the pickups in the VP, but it is very slightly quieter than the Gibson, which has the higher resistance Chinabuckers that were available.

They will make a great pair to gig with.

 

[dukeorock]

There's been more than one occasion that I've said 'I could be wrong'.... BUT..... ah never mind

I doubted your sincerity

 

[veebass]

The GP. I spend half an hour writing a serious response about Tbirds sounding like P Basses. The main point being there is a variance in TBird layouts but some have the neck pickup close to where a P Bass does. Someone a few posts later says you can't do it because the pickups are in the wrong place. I worry about this world.

 

[Dr_Feelgoood212]

I doubted your sincerity

So do a lot of people... that's the problem with being sarcastic 99% of the time.

 

[dukeorock]

The GP. I spend half an hour writing a serious response about Tbirds sounding like P Basses. The main point being there is a variance in TBird layouts but some have the neck pickup close to where a P Bass does. Someone a few posts later says you can't do it because the pickups are in the wrong place. I worry about this world.

I don’t think many people actually follow threads anymore...WAY too much trouble. Just read the OP, then spout off about it, whether you actually understand it or not. Act like an expert and everyone will assume you are one...seems to be the ‘logic’ anyway :/

 

[theFixer]

The GP. I spend half an hour writing a serious response about Tbirds sounding like P Basses. The main point being there is a variance in TBird layouts but some have the neck pickup close to where a P Bass does. Someone a few posts later says you can't do it because the pickups are in the wrong place. I worry about this world.

People don't wanna be taught... they wanna be told they're right.

 

[BklynKen]

People don't wanna be taught... they wanna be told they're right.

Echo Chamber. That's what the Internet has become for people.

 

[veebass]

I don’t think many people actually follow threads anymore...WAY too much trouble. Just read the OP, then spout off about it, whether you actually understand it or not. Act like an expert and everyone will assume you are one...seems to be the ‘logic’ anyway :/

I hear you brother. It took about half an hour to write my suggestions AFTER I read the whole thread. I could see there were people speaking out of their hats (as usual) about TBirds, and P Basses for that matter. I was trying to be helpful to the OP who asked a reasonable question.

One thing always amazes me in these discussion is the assumption there is one P Bass and one TBird Tone. A quick adjustment of your tone pots can make a P Bass sound way woolier than a TBird.
Which P Bass tone are they looking for? Which P Bass are they talking about?

 

[veebass]

People don't wanna be taught... they wanna be told they're right.

Exactly.

 

[Eddie LeBlanc]

I'm quite fond of my GK MB500. Nothing cheap about it.

I have a GK MB500 set up in the practice room, going thru a custom built dual B&C Neo 10" tuned ported cabinet. Works great fpor the practice studio.

But the Genzler goes with me to the gigs. Along with three 12" inch B&C Neos in two Schroeder Cabs. BTW the Bottom Schroeder has a corner fold 12" mounted in it, although it only looks like a single 12". Smoking set up. With Freq. response down to 35 hz at 102 SPL efficiency.

 

[BklynKen]

I have a GK MB500 set up in the practice room, going thru a custom built dual B&C Neo 10" tuned ported cabinet. Works great fpor the practice studio.

But the Genzler goes with me to the gigs. Along with three 12" inch B&C Neos in two Schroeder Cabs. BTW the Bottom Schroeder has a corner fold 12" mounted in it, although it only looks like a single 12". Smoking set up. With Freq. response down to 35 hz at 102 SPL efficiency.

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Cool.

 

[JJR58]

The GP. I spend half an hour writing a serious response about Tbirds sounding like P Basses. The main point being there is a variance in TBird layouts but some have the neck pickup close to where a P Bass does. Someone a few posts later says you can't do it because the pickups are in the wrong place. I worry about this world.

Cryin shame when the facts are put in someones face, and total denial is the best they can do.

 

[Nocturnal]

There's been more than one occasion that I've said 'I could be wrong'.... BUT..... ah never mind

I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

I have a GK MB500 set up in the practice room, going thru a custom built dual B&C Neo 10" tuned ported cabinet. Works great fpor the practice studio.

But the Genzler goes with me to the gigs. Along with three 12" inch B&C Neos in two Schroeder Cabs. BTW the Bottom Schroeder has a corner fold 12" mounted in it, although it only looks like a single 12". Smoking set up. With Freq. response down to 35 hz at 102 SPL efficiency.

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Looks like a nice rig. Any idea on how the Genzler compares to the Genz Benz Streamliner?

 

[Dr_Feelgoood212]

I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

Got that right!

 

[dukeorock]

I hear you brother. It took about half an hour to write my suggestions AFTER I read the whole thread. I could see there were people speaking out of their hats (as usual) about TBirds, and P Basses for that matter. I was trying to be helpful to the OP who asked a reasonable question.

One thing always amazes me in these discussion is the assumption there is one P Bass and one TBird Tone. A quick adjustment of your tone pots can make a P Bass sound way woolier than a TBird.
Which P Bass tone are they looking for? Which P Bass are they talking about?

It is pretty silly...I’ve owned a bunch of P basses. Love em, but they were all different sounding

Cryin shame when the facts are put in someones face, and total denial is the best they can do.

You take that back!!! Because...Fodera or something!!!

Looks like a nice rig. Any idea on how the Genzler compares to the Genz Benz Streamliner?

Not terribly similar...the Genzler Magellan is more like an evolved Shuttle than a Streamliner. Cool amp though

 

[Haji]

Gibson has problems as a company. I gravitate to Gibson guitars, but that doesn't mean I have to think the company is all fine and dandy. Jettisoning Henry J would be a start in fixing it.

Hard to do, though. It's set up as him as the sole owner. Basically a sole proprietorship, but that would be insane to do. At any rate, it's privately held, rather than publically, so ousting him isn't as easy as just buying the company.

 

[Stevis]

Echo Chamber. That's what the Internet has become for people.

#fake, #failing, #sad. If only they had a bass guitar segment on Fox & Friends!

 

[JJR58]

Well holy crap, someone actually had something good to say about the Tbird/Pbass thing.
I'm shocked.

 

[Eddie LeBlanc]

I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.



Looks like a nice rig. Any idea on how the Genzler compares to the Genz Benz Streamliner?

Not really, but send Jeff Genzler a message. I'm sure he can tell you. Check his web site out.
Homepage - Genzler Amplification
But the Genz Benz amps were out of business for some time. I'm sure Jeff incorporated a few updates, in the years he was idle. After all Fender / Kaman bought out Genz over a decade ago, and then shut it down. Like they did with a lot of other stuff the bought out. Fender bought them I think in 2007, the shut it all down in 2015 I think, or at least sold all remaining inventory by then.