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Thunderbird Club

So yes, there is such thing as too much mojo.
Tore the BB down and cleaned up 14 years of funk from the fretboard and hardware, then the woodworker in me took over and I HAD to even out the finish with some light compound (sorry guys, it just looked so greasy and blotchy).
Results are a much cleaner bird with a piano finish and a lot of road wear.
I'll post pics soon
 
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a little out of order, but you get the picture. I think it turned out great! Still looks legit, but imo road worn doesn't have to mean trashed :-)

I love a matte finish...until its not matte anymore if you know what I mean.
 
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Still looks legit, but imo road worn doesn't have to mean trashed :)
I love a matte finish...until its not matte anymore if you know what I mean.

When matte becomes polished from playing - that's real road-worn.
 
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a little out of order, but you get the picture. I think it turned out great! Still looks legit, but imo road worn doesn't have to mean trashed :)

I love a matte finish...until its not matte anymore if you know what I mean.

Looking really good! :)

I would love to do this to one of my Goth's before applying all-chrome hardware to it - Would you mind elaborating on how you did this and what you used for the shine?
 
I'm thinking about doing the same thing to my newest BlackBird. There are a lot of shiny sections from play and wear so I will probably gloss it up like yours.

it looks so much better now.
Just go easy on it. There is a clear over the black, go too hard and you'll burn thru and get witness marks.
I got a small one shining the back of my explorer, but I knew better this time around.
 
it looks so much better now.
Just go easy on it. There is a clear over the black, go too hard and you'll burn thru and get witness marks.
I got a small one shining the back of my explorer, but I knew better this time around.

What compound did you use, and did you use a machine for buffering or was it all done by hand?
 
Looking really good! :)

I would love to do this to one of my Goth's before applying all-chrome hardware to it - Would you mind elaborating on how you did this and what you used for the shine?

in this case, I rubbed it down with lite rubbing compound, meguiers ultimate compound to be specific. Use a application pad or you'll get an uneven result from finger pressure, then I followed up with some carnauba wax and a hand buff.
I didn't go crazy. I was happy with it, just wanted to get rid of the blotches.

On my exploer I went with progressive wetsanding followed by compound and wax, and the back of it looks like a steinway.
I ended up doing the rest with steel wool to give it a matte/satin look, but the shiny spots always come back.
 
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...the Goth does have a pretty thick layer of Poly and has been wood filled, so I guess the need to be careful isn't that necessary, though... ;)

by hand is safest. The poly on the epi is more forging than the gibson nitro, but way harder to fix if you burn through the clear.

I wouldn't use a machine unless you've got a bit of experience, if you do it go for a foam pad and an orbital buffer. A rotary with lambs wool will cut through like a laser.
 
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...the Goth does have a pretty thick layer of Poly and has been wood filled, so I guess the need to be careful isn't that necessary, though... ;)

I kinda went that way when i redid mine. I love the goth for the inlayless fretboard & since i disliked how the flat black was (too greyish) & to hide the scars, satin black with a semi gloss coating did the trick. & now looks much more like the blackbird finish. + with the ebony stain over a rosewood fingerboard (which now looks worn :D ) it's now earned the name goth.
 
No lack for real wear on this one. Just more uniform now

For sure - not debating that, your's looks great now :thumbsup: - just making a point about matte finishes. I have a natural Parker 5'r w/a matte finish and love seeing the transition from matte to shiny where it's been played (mostly on the neck).
 
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in this case, I rubbed it down with lite rubbing compound, meguiers ultimate compound to be specific. Use a application pad or you'll get an uneven result from finger pressure, then I followed up with some carnauba wax and a hand buff.
I didn't go crazy. I was happy with it, just wanted to get rid of the blotches.

On my exploer I went with progressive wetsanding followed by compound and wax, and the back of it looks like a steinway.
I ended up doing the rest with steel wool to give it a matte/satin look, but the shiny spots always come back.

by hand is safest. The poly on the epi is more forging than the gibson nitro, but way harder to fix if you burn through the clear.

I wouldn't use a machine unless you've got a bit of experience, if you do it go for a foam pad and an orbital buffer. A rotary with lambs wool will cut through like a laser.

I kinda went that way when i redid mine. I love the goth for the inlayless fretboard & since i disliked how the flat black was (too greyish) & to hide the scars, satin black with a semi gloss coating did the trick. & now looks much more like the blackbird finish. + with the ebony stain over a rosewood fingerboard (which now looks worn :D ) it's now earned the name goth.

Cool!

Thanks for the tips - Will definitely go that way, when I get the time.. :)
 
For sure - not debating that, your's looks great now :thumbsup: - just making a point about matte finishes. I have a natural Parker 5'r w/a matte finish and love seeing the transition from matte to shiny where it's been played (mostly on the neck).

id tend to agree with you, but it starts looking pretty awful on matte black.
In my case she already rubbed through to the wood in a lot of spots and has tons of character, so giving it a shine really did nothing more than tell the world shes been through a lot, but is still appreciated :-)
 
Well it has been a long time since I've stopped in on this club. I've been living in Connecticut for the past 4 years while at school, and since flight cases for T-Birds don't exactly come easy, I always left it behind back west when I was out there. However, now I'm back west and have renewed interest in the 'bird.

While I was driving back from the east coast, I stopped in Minneapolis to see some family, and it just so happened the band Temples was playing that night, so I ended up going to see them, and their frontman brought out a late 60s Non-Reverse Firebird XII for a few numbers. That reminded me of the 8-string Thunderbird I'd seen on TB ages back, and how cool that damn thing was. After poking around for some info on it (thanks Tbird1958 for answering my questions!), it seems getting a hold of one of those isn't terrible likely, seeing as the builder isn't building them at the moment. So, pipe dream put on hold. ANYHOW, it did prompt me to pull the Zebrabird out from under the bed when I got home. I've never terribly got along with the thing for a number of reasons. I love how it looks, but when I got it I was coming from a AVRI Precision, so the neck always felt rather uncomfortable (made my hand cramp up), the frets always seemed excessively large, and the string spacing felt a bit awkward. So it only came out on rare occasions. I've thought about selling it a number of times, but couldn't really bring myself to do it, given there's only 400 of them.

When I pulled it from under the bed, it was pretty apparent it needed some work. At somepoint it must have got some moisture in the case or on it somehow, as the frets were all...corroded, rusted? Covered in green buildup and rust, anyways, meaning when bending strings it felt scratchy and gritty. So, first thing first, got out some steel wool and tape, and polished the frets and then oiled the fretboard. Next step was dropping the action, A LOT. I'd never set it up after I bought it, and the factory setup just wasn't that hot. Neck was straight as an arrow, but high off the board. Cranked the bridge down a lot, dropped the pickups massivelt, retuned it, and MAN, what a difference. Before I'd had issues with my fingers hitting the pups when I was playing and feeling the bass was always way overpowering the treble, but with the pickups down, it's far more balanced with a lot more room to play on now. I also realized that I just have no need for the brdige pickup to be on at all, and that the neck pup is the only one I really use. To be fair, a Precision is still my measuring post for bass tone (mind you, not a "flatwond, tone rolled off" one, rather tone wide open, Swing 66s, into a driven Sunn amp, think Entwislte on the '69 US tour), but now the 'Bird aligns far more closely with my tonal goals, but still having a distinct flavor. It'll start getting a fair bit more use now. I've been using it to learn the Bach Cello suites on this week.

Now I just have a hankering for a Non-Reverse Thunderbird II in Willow Mist poly (light sage green) or, if I can ever track down a builder, a Non-Reverse Thunderbird VIII in Polaris White. Let the GAS flow.


Oh, and here's a pic of the Zebrabird getting worked on.

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