Thunderbird Club

[JIO]

Was just yukking it up here, but I suppose hard case is technically better. With my semi-hectic "lifestyle" however a gig bag is way more cart-able, simpler to store at a gig. Just all-around handy.
I may just splash for one of those Gator bags, but if a case came along for cheap/trade might do that...

I agree about HSC vs gig-bags - I primarily use gig bags for transporting to rehearsals and shows and cases for storage. Don't have a case for every bass I own, but many are left out for playing anyway. With cases it comes down to available storage space.

 

[Engle]

I find myself cursing the internet often, and watching Black Mirror episodes involving social media reinforces it - but in this case I want to give a shout-out of the good aspects of the inter-webs related to this amp (my amp) and its repair by Chuck. Because of tb and this very social thread I was able to meet CS in person due to our relative proximity and have him fix an amp that I bought and last used 5 years ago. Too long a story of why it took this long, but point being I will be re-united with it soon thanks to Chucks expertise. Another happy Ashdown owner! This thing that has created so many problems (internet) also offers a connection to others around us that was unthinkable or at least highly unlikely at one time. I'm thankful to all of those alignments (cosmic or otherwise) that made it possible to meet a 'cyber' friend, one that is a skilled technician at that! Maybe someday I can meet others here who I 'know' but have never met. It makes the world a more friendly place.

^Well said!! One can find much evil in social media, but it is what you make of it.
Besides the connections we have here, I have a long list of friends and relatives I keep in touch with through Facebook and Instagram. Yes, some are irritating, and those get hidden/ignored.

 

[GonePlaid]

^Well said!! One can find much evil in social media, but it is what you make of it.
Besides the connections we have here, I have a long list of friends and relatives I keep in touch with through Facebook and Instagram. Yes, some are irritating, and those get hidden/ignored.

I know just enuff people who've gotten their keesters in a sling 'cos of some innocent comment on FB that I cho(o)se to stay offa it.

 

[JIO]

^Well said!! One can find much evil in social media, but it is what you make of it.
Besides the connections we have here, I have a long list of friends and relatives I keep in touch with through Facebook and Instagram. Yes, some are irritating, and those get hidden/ignored.

eBay is like that also, and for that matter any on-line commerce (Reverb, etc) - there are lot's of bad actors out there but there are far more people just conducting national/ international business, just like any business. It's a reflection of the world we live in and when the jerks vs good people balance tips primarily to the bad side - well, let's hope it doesn't.

 

[Engle]

I know just enuff people who've gotten their keesters in a sling 'cos of some innocent comment on FB that I cho(o)se to stay offa it.

Not sure how you can get in serious trouble on FB (besides discussing something illegal or really stupid). You can always turn off notifications.
You do need to stay off the neighbourhood discussion groups. I join those to advertise my gigs, but have learned not to comment.
There is a FB thunderbird bass players group that I enjoy.

 

[GonePlaid]

Not sure how you can get in serious trouble on FB (besides discussing something illegal or really stupid). You can always turn off notifications.
You do need to stay off the neighbourhood discussion groups. I join those to advertise my gigs, but have learned not to comment.
There is a FB thunderbird bass players group that I enjoy.

I don't have-or want-a smartphone, so everything I do is on PC which I might be on all day, or might not get to for 2 days. My message to people: call me. (that's what a phone is for. Yes, I'm a GOF[#228])

 

[Kriegs]

Not sure how you can get in serious trouble on FB (besides discussing something illegal or really stupid). You can always turn off notifications.
You do need to stay off the neighbourhood discussion groups. I join those to advertise my gigs, but have learned not to comment.
There is a FB thunderbird bass players group that I enjoy.

I have 2 personal experiences I can share of FB getting people into trouble. Both of these folks were in their early 20's and, through the eyes of seasoned adults (like us) might appear as just stupid kids. But I think you can clearly see the difference between the two examples. Either way, though, the end result is the same.

1. My step daughter's boyfriend ("Joe") wrote on his FB wall one day after a particularly long and tiring day, "Man, sometimes I hate working." The next day he walked into work and was pulled into the boss' office where he was told "You don't like working? Congratulations, you're fired. Get out." He had no idea what happened until the next day when one of the guys that was there before him the morning before over heard one of the other mechanics ("Steve") showing the boss something on his FB wall. He was real life and FB friends with Joe and so Joe's post was visible on Steve's wall. The boss saw that, didn't look for or ask for any context and decided that he was going to teach 'these damn kids' a lesson and make Joe the example that he'd been looking for. Joe didn't hate his job. He was tired from working several long days in the summer heat.
2. We had an intern at work call in sick for 3 days claiming that she had pneumonia and was in the hospital. A quick look at her FB wall by one of the other interns (with whom she was FB friends) showed her on the plane to Aruba, on the beach in Aruba, in the club in Aruba and finally, on the plane home from Aruba. That last picture was captioned "What work doesn't know won't hurt me!" She was let go as soon as she walked in the office the following day.

My personal rule with FB or any social media is this: If we work together, I will not be connected to you on any social media platform. Period. If we were friends before and you come to work were I do, I will (and have) sever those connections. Not because I post anything that I'm worried about but because of the case of my first example - someone not seeing something they like, out of context and making decisions based on bad or partial data. Life will stack itself against you of it's own volition & nature... there's no need to help it along

 

[Miles_ONeal]

I know just enuff people who've gotten their keesters in a sling 'cos of some innocent comment on FB that I cho(o)se to stay offa it.

I figure that's their problem. I do the best I can, as do most of the people I know well. If others choose to take it the wrong way, I can't help that. I will rectify what I can, but otherwise, oh well.

 

[Inky13]

I don't have-or want-a smartphone, so everything I do is on PC which I might be on all day, or might not get to for 2 days. My message to people: call me. (that's what a phone is for. Yes, I'm a GOF[#228])

A.....a phone call? On a phone? What sort of sorcery is this?

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

Got called in last minute to do a 45 at the Mid-County Senior center (Capitola) yesterday, figured the seniors were having a dance or event or something…..as soon as I get there (even before bringing my rig in) the BL slips a C-note and goes “thank you for being here” which I found odd since one usually gets paid after the fact….then I come to find out AA holds their events there and this one was for a member who recently passed…..sitting around before playing listening to the announcer of the memorial service I find out everything was done on a donation basis ..…got up and slid the BL his money back…he goes “I can’t take it”…I says “one day some youngsters will prolly be playing for us” …..sometimes some things just don’t feel right..

 

[Miles_ONeal]

I have 2 personal experiences I can share of FB getting people into trouble. Both of these folks were in their early 20's and, through the eyes of seasoned adults (like us) might appear as just stupid kids. But I think you can clearly see the difference between the two examples. Either way, though, the end result is the same.

1. My step daughter's boyfriend ("Joe") wrote on his FB wall one day after a particularly long and tiring day, "Man, sometimes I hate working." The next day he walked into work and was pulled into the boss' office where he was told "You don't like working? Congratulations, you're fired. Get out." He had no idea what happened until the next day when one of the guys that was there before him the morning before over heard one of the other mechanics ("Steve") showing the boss something on his FB wall. He was real life and FB friends with Joe and so Joe's post was visible on Steve's wall. The boss saw that, didn't look for or ask for any context and decided that he was going to teach 'these damn kids' a lesson and make Joe the example that he'd been looking for. Joe didn't hate his job. He was tired from working several long days in the summer heat.
2. We had an intern at work call in sick for 3 days claiming that she had pneumonia and was in the hospital. A quick look at her FB wall by one of the other interns (with whom she was FB friends) showed her on the plane to Aruba, on the beach in Aruba, in the club in Aruba and finally, on the plane home from Aruba. That last picture was captioned "What work doesn't know won't hurt me!" She was let go as soon as she walked in the office the following day.

Joe wasn't a stupid kid. Steve and Boss acted like total anal orifices. Joe's inexperience could just as easily have had the same result without facebook, just from an innocent remark over a beer. While facbeook does make it easier to run afoul of AO, it also offers plenty of benefits to offset that.
The intern? That was a truly stupid (and anal orificial) thing to do on her part. It might well have kept the company out of trouble. Someone like that isn't an asset.

 

[Kriegs]

I don't have-or want-a smartphone, so everything I do is on PC which I might be on all day, or might not get to for 2 days. My message to people: call me. (that's what a phone is for. Yes, I'm a GOF[#228])

I HATE getting texts when people know that I'm driving. The conversation that inevitably occurs usually goes like this:

Them: Did you ever get my text?
Me: I heard the alert while I was driving.
Them: Why didn't you reply?
Me: ... I was driving
Them: Why didn't you reply when you got where you were going?
Me: If it was so important, why didn't you type the 10 digits of my phone number and get an immediate answer instead of typing the dozens and dozens of letters of your text, only to get no answer and then have to wait to ask me to my face anyway?

 

[Miles_ONeal]

I HATE getting texts when people know that I'm driving. The conversation that inevitably occurs usually goes like this:

Them: Did you ever get my text?
Me: I heard the alert while I was driving.
Them: Why didn't you reply?
Me: ... I was driving
Them: Why didn't you reply when you got where you were going?
Me: If it was so important, why didn't you type the 10 digits of my phone number and get an immediate answer instead of typing the dozens and dozens of letters of your text, only to get no answer and then have to wait to ask me to my face anyway?

THIS!!!

 

[GonePlaid]

I HATE getting texts when people know that I'm driving. The conversation that inevitably occurs usually goes like this:

Them: Did you ever get my text?
Me: I heard the alert while I was driving.
Them: Why didn't you reply?
Me: ... I was driving
Them: Why didn't you reply when you got where you were going?
Me: If it was so important, why didn't you type the 10 digits of my phone number and get an immediate answer instead of typing the dozens and dozens of letters of your text, only to get no answer and then have to wait to ask me to my face anyway?

HUZZAH! I tell ppl call me(first),then follow up w/ txt. The only person I txt-at all- is my daughter who can't answer her phone at work.

 

[JIO]

I have 2 personal experiences I can share of FB getting people into trouble. Both of these folks were in their early 20's and, through the eyes of seasoned adults (like us) might appear as just stupid kids. But I think you can clearly see the difference between the two examples. Either way, though, the end result is the same.

1. My step daughter's boyfriend ("Joe") wrote on his FB wall one day after a particularly long and tiring day, "Man, sometimes I hate working." The next day he walked into work and was pulled into the boss' office where he was told "You don't like working? Congratulations, you're fired. Get out." He had no idea what happened until the next day when one of the guys that was there before him the morning before over heard one of the other mechanics ("Steve") showing the boss something on his FB wall. He was real life and FB friends with Joe and so Joe's post was visible on Steve's wall. The boss saw that, didn't look for or ask for any context and decided that he was going to teach 'these damn kids' a lesson and make Joe the example that he'd been looking for. Joe didn't hate his job. He was tired from working several long days in the summer heat.
2. We had an intern at work call in sick for 3 days claiming that she had pneumonia and was in the hospital. A quick look at her FB wall by one of the other interns (with whom she was FB friends) showed her on the plane to Aruba, on the beach in Aruba, in the club in Aruba and finally, on the plane home from Aruba. That last picture was captioned "What work doesn't know won't hurt me!" She was let go as soon as she walked in the office the following day.

My personal rule with FB or any social media is this: If we work together, I will not be connected to you on any social media platform. Period. If we were friends before and you come to work were I do, I will (and have) sever those connections. Not because I post anything that I'm worried about but because of the case of my first example - someone not seeing something they like, out of context and making decisions based on bad or partial data. Life will stack itself against you of it's own volition & nature... there's no need to help it along

I think many internet savvy people avoid connection to work contacts on social media. As you pointed out, too much at stake.

 

[JIO]

Got called in last minute to do a 45 at the Mid-County Senior center (Capitola) yesterday, figured the seniors were having a dance or event or something…..as soon as I get there (even before bringing my rig in) the BL slips a C-note and goes “thank you for being here” which I found odd since one usually gets paid after the fact….then I come to find out AA holds their events there and this one was for a member who recently passed…..sitting around before playing listening to the announcer of the memorial service I find out everything was done on a donation basis ..…got up and slid the BL his money back…he goes “I can’t take it”…I says “one day some youngsters will prolly be playing for us” …..sometimes some things just don’t feel right..

I have a good friend, a great guy and fantastic guitarist in the mold of Chet Atkins who does a once a week local hospital solo 'gig' in the lobby of their emergency room. He knows a million songs and just plays quietly for people under a lot of duress. He does get a nominal payment for doing so, but considering the situation he does it with the same understanding you speak of. Music in this context gets to the root of its real power.

 

[JIO]

I HATE getting texts when people know that I'm driving. The conversation that inevitably occurs usually goes like this:

Them: Did you ever get my text?
Me: I heard the alert while I was driving.
Them: Why didn't you reply?
Me: ... I was driving
Them: Why didn't you reply when you got where you were going?
Me: If it was so important, why didn't you type the 10 digits of my phone number and get an immediate answer instead of typing the dozens and dozens of letters of your text, only to get no answer and then have to wait to ask me to my face anyway?

Not being a full-fledged luddite, I choose not to text. It's more of a statement for me which so far has not impacted my life adversely.

 

[JIO]

Joe wasn't a stupid kid. Steve and Boss acted like total anal orifices. Joe's inexperience could just as easily have had the same result without facebook, just from an innocent remark over a beer. While facbeook does make it easier to run afoul of AO, it also offers plenty of benefits to offset that.
The intern? That was a truly stupid (and anal orificial) thing to do on her part. It might well have kept the company out of trouble. Someone like that isn't an asset.

It's part of the world we live in now. I first started seeing it when YELP started. My friend ran a local cafe and along with all the nice posts there would inevitably be a number of posts by type-A characters who attacked the service unreasonably. These types have always been out there but now they have a forum. Same with the neighborhood discussion groups Engle noted - along with the simple cross-communication with those who live around you (and may never actually meet) lurk trolls waiting for a hot-button topic to pounce on with an aggressive response. At one time you were lucky never to be aware of these people - now they have a big megaphone and shout the loudest.

 

[Kriegs]

now they have a big megaphone and shout the loudest.

Saddest. Truth. Ever.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

I think many internet savvy people avoid connection to work contacts on social media. As you pointed out, too much at stake.

I've been on the net since it was a very small, friendly place. Facebook is just the modern, more intrusive version of Eternal September.
I am careful who I add from work, but then I'm careful who I add, period. I've only had to hide or block a handful of people. More have probably done so to me when I wouldn't back down on a s@cr3d cow they were flogging in public at others' expense.