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Thunderbird Club

Couple of unusual ESP Thunderbirds on eBay right now.

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ESP Thunderbird type Custom Order model Silver MADE IN JAPAN Used

Wow! Those knobs are weird...

not only the knobs, but i think it's weird in general. I like thunderbirds & surely these are one offs, but i dislike the control placement, because i hang my basses low, if i had that, id just knock the knobs to cut the volume. Not for me, but whoever in this world wants & has the cash then i do hope you're happy with it

A few years ago I realized I had the potential to have a problem with alcohol, a bit of self realization and counseling really helped, I do still enjoy a drink but not nearly as often and always in moderation (i.e. 1 ), and while I may joke about it in reference to myself I know some of us here have to be very careful in this regard and I respect that.

In that retrospect, to all those who must moderate due to health & other, i'll have a drink for each & everyone of you (being 21 has its upsides :D )
 
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not only the knobs, but i think it's weird in general. I like thunderbirds & surely these are one offs, but i dislike the control placement, because i hang my basses low, if i had that, id just knock the knobs to cut the volume. Not for me, but whoever in this world wants & has the cash then i do hope you're happy with it



In that retrospect, to all those who must moderate due to health & other, i'll have a drink for each & everyone of you (being 21 has its upsides :D )


Ahhh.... youth.
I miss that stunt liver I used to have :roflmao:
 
Pickups arrived this morning after two postal attempts and 6 weeks.
Thought I better check them before starting installation.
I must be cursed- one is open circuit! On closer inspection I see one of the fine black wires is detached where it comes through the bottom of the pickup (see pic) .
I am not familiar with these pickups, is that wire an earth or hot?
The other pickup reads nicely at 8.5 K- supposed to be 8K happy with that one
Lodged a return through eBay asking for a replacement for the faulty/ damaged one. I see from earlier in this thread Eric is away for a vacation- hopefully there is someone else there.
They have 3 days to respond under eBay rules.
This is very frustrating.

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BTW. I too have cut down on the drinking in the last several years- only really have a few mid strength beers once or twice a week these days. Never drink while gigging or practicing.
But this pickup saga is testing me!
 
I posted this on another thread, "How Do You Fix Neck Dive" or something like that. Thought since this is a bit more oriented specifically to T-Birds some here might find it helpful, or at least mildly interesting perhaps. Or not...

Alright then. Messing around with my Steinberger Spirit I got to thinking about "what if I DID" put the Steinberger strap hook on my T-Bird, could that actually solve my neck dive issue? As those of you here may or may not know mine is a recently purchased Pro V 5 string, it has a heavier than usual neck (7 piece maple and walnut laminate) and although neck dive doesn't seem to be an issue for all T-Birds it certainly is for mine. Even though I've tried wide straps with suede finish on the inside, moved strap knobs around etc at the suggestions of numerous of you T-Bird owners here (thank you) I've still been unable to completely solve the issue.

So first off I measured the length of the hook as mounted on the Steiney to get an idea of where the end of it would be in relationship to the fret board on the T-Bird. The hook moves the attachment point of the strap forward by 5", which puts me at about the 13th fret on the neck. Tied a leather strap that came with the last guitar strap I bought through the front hole on the strap and then tied the strap to the neck at the 13th fret. Boom, the neck stayed put and actually felt like the bias was now more to the body of the bass as it should be.

So I got out my Spirit, removed the strap hook and mounted it onto the T-Bird. The front strap attachment point is exactly lined up with the 12th fret. No more neck dive, the neck sits at a nice upward angle about 10 - 15 degrees above level and it STAYS THERE. Problem solved! I've attached a couple of photos to show what it all looks like. Some may think it a bit weird, I like to think of it as outside-the-box problem solving. But by God it freaking works. Now I just have to get another strap hook for my Steiney, and I also have to modify the case so the damn thing fits and lays flat in the case...

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I posted this on another thread, "How Do You Fix Neck Dive" or something like that. Thought since this is a bit more oriented specifically to T-Birds some here might find it helpful, or at least mildly interesting perhaps. Or not...

Alright then. Messing around with my Steinberger Spirit I got to thinking about "what if I DID" put the Steinberger strap hook on my T-Bird, could that actually solve my neck dive issue? As those of you here may or may not know mine is a recently purchased Pro V 5 string, it has a heavier than usual neck (7 piece maple and walnut laminate) and although neck dive doesn't seem to be an issue for all T-Birds it certainly is for mine. Even though I've tried wide straps with suede finish on the inside, moved strap knobs around etc at the suggestions of numerous of you T-Bird owners here (thank you) I've still been unable to completely solve the issue.

So first off I measured the length of the hook as mounted on the Steiney to get an idea of where the end of it would be in relationship to the fret board on the T-Bird. The hook moves the attachment point of the strap forward by 5", which puts me at about the 13th fret on the neck. Tied a leather strap that came with the last guitar strap I bought through the front hole on the strap and then tied the strap to the neck at the 13th fret. Boom, the neck stayed put and actually felt like the bias was now more to the body of the bass as it should be.

So I got out my Spirit, removed the strap hook and mounted it onto the T-Bird. The front strap attachment point is exactly lined up with the 12th fret. No more neck dive, the neck sits at a nice upward angle about 10 - 15 degrees above level and it STAYS THERE. Problem solved! I've attached a couple of photos to show what it all looks like. Some may think it a bit weird, I like to think of it as outside-the-box problem solving. But by God it freaking works. Now I just have to get another strap hook for my Steiney, and I also have to modify the case so the damn thing fits and lays flat in the case...

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That would certainly change the balance point. It looks like that hook would change the balance to be more like a Precision. If that's the aim, it sure looks like it would work really well.
 
Pickups arrived this morning after two postal attempts and 6 weeks.
Thought I better check them before starting installation.
I must be cursed- one is open circuit! On closer inspection I see one of the fine black wires is detached where it comes through the bottom of the pickup (see pic) .
I am not familiar with these pickups, is that wire an earth or hot?
The other pickup reads nicely at 8.5 K- supposed to be 8K happy with that one
Lodged a return through eBay asking for a replacement for the faulty/ damaged one. I see from earlier in this thread Eric is away for a vacation- hopefully there is someone else there.
They have 3 days to respond under eBay rules.
This is very frustrating.

24yv607.jpg

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BTW. I too have cut down on the drinking in the last several years- only really have a few mid strength beers once or twice a week these days. Never drink while gigging or practicing.
But this pickup saga is testing me!

All sorted- refunded for one pickup and I will order a 9.2K as a replacement. Eric is pretty good to deal with.
 
All sorted- refunded for one pickup and I will order a 9.2K as a replacement. Eric is pretty good to deal with.

Did you have to return the faulty one?

If not - You could always try taking it apart and see if you can fix it - It may be as simple a task as just solder the loose wire to a contact point inside, and you would have a spare... :)
 
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Did you have to return the faulty one?

If not - You could always try taking it apart and see if you can fix it - It may be as simple a task as just solder the loose wire to a contact point inside, and you would have a spare... :)

No he said to keep it. Yes, it would be good to have a spare.
As you can see from the pic, the thin black wire in the foreground is broken where it is meant to go through the little round hole and into the back of the pickup. Does anyone have any idea of how difficult this would be to get working?

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No he said to keep it. Yes, it would be good to have a spare.
As you can see from the pic, the thin black wire in the foreground is broken where it is meant to go through the little round hole and into the back of the pickup. Does anyone have any idea of how difficult this would be to get working?

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Not that I have tried it myself, but the procedure should be pretty straightforward:

You need to desolder the four solderpoint on the cover and gently pry the cover off (you will probably need a thin sheet of plastic or a thin pick to put inbetween the baseplate and the cover when you have unsoldered to keep the sides from touching each other).

If the cover doesn't slide right off after that, you may have to heat the cover ever so slightly to get it loose from the wax, i suppose...

Once the cover (or baseplate) is off you should be able to see the contactpoint for the loose wire, which is usually at the end of the pickup.

Someone with more knowledge should be able to confirm this, or give better guidance...