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Thunderbird Club

Today was the day I wanted to get the VP dialed in. I decided those DA Pro Steels were dead, or garbage, or both. I had a fresh set of 45 - 105 Nickels I added to a SW order some weeks ago on a whim, just to check the brand out. So I figured I’d put them on, if they don’t work it’ll be on to something else. I removed the old strings, polished the frets, cleaned the FB and opened the new strings. I was attending a wedding via Zoom while I was doing this, so I wasn’t paying real close attention as I was installing the strings. Got ‘en on, tuned to pitch and what the heck? A taper point sits on the fret. Really? I’d never come across strings that tapered like that on the fretboard.


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So I’m pissed. And I’m not putting those Pro Steels back on. I really want to play this bird with fresh strings. So I check and see GC is open. I wait until the wedding wraps up and venture out into the world, mask and all. I figured a fresh set of Slinkys will sound good, at feast for a little while. I get to GC and they only have sets of 45 -100. Not my usual gauge, but they’ll have to do.

Anyway, I got them installed, did the intonation dance, straightened the neck a bit, set the string height and got to play for a bit. Wow. This VP sounds amazing. Like Turner on Ballad of the Beacon from the Live Dates album when he started playing the bird he got from Overend.

I ordered knobs the other day; one of the volume knobs is missing the silver reflector. They should be here by Thursday.

The nickels I was going to try on a whim? These. As far as I’m concerned, they’re worthless.

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Today was the day I wanted to get the VP dialed in. I decided those DA Pro Steels were dead, or garbage, or both. I had a fresh set of 45 - 105 Nickels I added to a SW order some weeks ago on a whim, just to check the brand out. So I figured I’d put them on, if they don’t work it’ll be on to something else. I removed the old strings, polished the frets, cleaned the FB and opened the new strings. I was attending a wedding via Zoom while I was doing this, so I wasn’t paying real close attention as I was installing the strings. Got ‘en on, tuned to pitch and what the heck? A taper point sits on the fret. Really? I’d never come across strings that tapered like that on the fretboard.


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So I’m pissed. And I’m not putting those Pro Steels back on. I really want to play this bird with fresh strings. So I check and see GC is open. I wait until the wedding wraps up and venture out into the world, mask and all. I figured a fresh set of Slinkys will sound good, at feast for a little while. I get to GC and they only have sets of 45 -100. Not my usual gauge, but they’ll have to do.

Anyway, I got them installed, did the intonation dance, straightened the neck a bit, set the string height and got to play for a bit. Wow. This VP sounds amazing. Like Turner on Ballad of the Beacon from the Live Dates album when he started playing the bird he got from Overend.

I ordered knobs the other day; one of the volume knobs is missing the silver reflector. They should be here by Thursday.

The nickels I was going to try on a whim? These. As far as I’m concerned, they’re worthless.

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Did you notice they're short scale(or so the package says)? Prolly designed for an EB-0/3.
 
Did you notice they're short scale(or so the package says)? Prolly designed for an EB-0/3.
Yeah. After the fact. And the order was clearly for the long scale ones. Funny thing is, the G and D string were long enough to reach on the VP with two 1/2 wraps and the A and E had to be trimmed down. Next time, I’ll pay closer attention to what I’m doing.
 
Tried the GHS Precision Flats on the Gibson today. I'm either getting better at EQing it or getting more used to the sound, but it sounded better than anything. The GHS RC Boomers might have the best outcome. I'm interested in the TI Flats again and rolling the highs off the via the tone knob. I'm thinking they will provide less boom, and a lot of mids. I just need to tame the top clank. But I'm so used to having the tone wide open that I don't think I even tried that. Anyway, it did sound better, so I'm hopping I going in the right direction headed to a good destination. I hope so, as I sure love playing it.


I just couldn't get around TI Flats on my '89.
 
@Nocturnal-thanks for the info. A little too far for me to drive since he won't ship.

Bummer he won't ship. He lives on the other side of town, but might be able to work something out to pick it up and ship it. Wouldn't be able to get over there until late in the weeks tho. PM me if you want to discuss.
 
I'm certainly not trying to sway you in any direction, just reporting findings. I liked the DA's, really like the EB CF's. They were almost enuff to make me like my Epi NR 5er, which had P/J pups. Almost. Wasn't about to put 'good' pups in a bass I didn't especially like the feel of to begin with. I'm not sorry I tried it. I'd wanted one since I became aware of their existence, so I hadda give it a shot.

You can try swaying. I appreciate all the advice and perspective. I'm open minded, but can still get locked in at times. I have some sets of DA EXLs that came on basses and I'm certainly not opposed to putting a set on to see how they work. Shoot, as cheap as they are, I hope they do. I also have a set of EC CFs. They sounded really good on the first VP. Don't really care for how they feel, but if they are the trick, I can easily get over that. I hesitated trying them thus far because the Gibson has something on the top end (upper mids I think), that sticks out and I can't pinpoint which frequency range it might be in, and was afraid the CFs wold make that worse, being a little bright. Kind of like the TIs I first tried. But now that I'm fooling with the tone knob and EQ I might be able to get either of those to work. I found the EB CFs kind of similar in tone to GHS Pressurewounds, which are made from Alloy52. I'm open to advice and correction, so sway away!
 
Anyway, I got them installed, did the intonation dance, straightened the neck a bit, set the string height and got to play for a bit. Wow. This VP sounds amazing.
;) I'm so glad you are pleased with the tone! Also glad after all my hype you didn't say, "This thing sucks!" Awfully close to the 60s tone--W/O dropping some serious money, even for replacement PUs. And I've mentioned before that most of the strings I have tried sounded really good, even Fender flats, but some were in the amazing category. Don't be afraid to try some more string options to see which one matches the best with the bass and your tonal objectives.
 
Today was the day I wanted to get the VP dialed in. I decided those DA Pro Steels were dead, or garbage, or both. I had a fresh set of 45 - 105 Nickels I added to a SW order some weeks ago on a whim, just to check the brand out. So I figured I’d put them on, if they don’t work it’ll be on to something else. I removed the old strings, polished the frets, cleaned the FB and opened the new strings. I was attending a wedding via Zoom while I was doing this, so I wasn’t paying real close attention as I was installing the strings. Got ‘en on, tuned to pitch and what the heck? A taper point sits on the fret. Really? I’d never come across strings that tapered like that on the fretboard.


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So I’m pissed. And I’m not putting those Pro Steels back on. I really want to play this bird with fresh strings. So I check and see GC is open. I wait until the wedding wraps up and venture out into the world, mask and all. I figured a fresh set of Slinkys will sound good, at feast for a little while. I get to GC and they only have sets of 45 -100. Not my usual gauge, but they’ll have to do.

Anyway, I got them installed, did the intonation dance, straightened the neck a bit, set the string height and got to play for a bit. Wow. This VP sounds amazing. Like Turner on Ballad of the Beacon from the Live Dates album when he started playing the bird he got from Overend.

I ordered knobs the other day; one of the volume knobs is missing the silver reflector. They should be here by Thursday.

The nickels I was going to try on a whim? These. As far as I’m concerned, they’re worthless.

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That's so bizarre. But they're Brite!