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#183,463
BklynKen said:
The Phase 95 would give you both the Phase 45 and 90, and both script and block versions of each, in a tiny pedal format. What annoyed me about it is that its lights never turn off if it's plugged in. For a gigging board, who cares. But for also using at home, it was too annoying.
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Good to know. That would bother me, I think.
 
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Tanner5382 said:
Random thought that entered my head, which has probably been discussed here before.

Why do you think Gibson continues went with the three point bridge on these NRs, or even continues with it on the Reverses? Don't get me wrong, this isn't a standard three point bridge bashing post. I don't mind the bridge at all. However, since Epiphone has had success with the more classic style two piece bridge on the Vintage Pro line, wouldn't you think Gibson, especially under their new and better direction, would follow suit? Even the Oversized Les Paul Basses from years ago got a TOM style bridge. Again, not a criticism, just genuinely curious.
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I don't have a problem with the 3 Point, but would rather have the two piece claw, if done properly. But to my mind, there is not good reason for not doing so--even if they had truck load of the 3 points in the warehouse.
 
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MCF said:
What is the meaning of life?

It was a disappointment when the new NRs were announced with the three point. The old Gibson two piece had intonation issues that can be solved with Scott's bridge. Maybe cost? The tooling for the three point is long since paid for and unless the two was going to be used on multiple instruments it wasn't worth it for a small number. Why not use the one Epi does? Who knows.
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I have an answer to the first question, but there is no answer to the Gibson question.
 
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MCF said:
What is the meaning of life?

It was a disappointment when the new NRs were announced with the three point. The old Gibson two piece had intonation issues that can be solved with Scott's bridge. Maybe cost? The tooling for the three point is long since paid for and unless the two was going to be used on multiple instruments it wasn't worth it for a small number. Why not use the one Epi does? Who knows.
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I don't mind my 3 points, the one on my NR is really well set up ( I'll shoot some pics sometime soon) but a 2 point really would have been nice on this bass, the rest of it is really good, it would have crowned the effort. They would, no doubt have to develop a new CNC program aside from doing the hardware, I don't think they'd use the Epi hardware on a US bass.
 
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TBird1958 said:
I don't mind my 3 points, the one on my NR is really well set up ( I'll shoot some pics sometime soon) but a 2 point really would have been nice on this bass, the rest of it is really good, it would have crowned the effort. They would, no doubt have to develop a new CNC program aside from doing the hardware, I don't think they'd use the Epi hardware on a US bass.
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I think you're correct re the use of the Epi hardware. Just as I believe they discontinued using Babicz when production of those shifted overseas.
 
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WillyW said:
I may possibly be more confused than when I started.
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Actually, we specialize in that around here.

Tanner5382 said:
Random thought that entered my head, which has probably been discussed here before.

Why do you think Gibson continues went with the three point bridge on these NRs, or even continues with it on the Reverses? Don't get me wrong, this isn't a standard three point bridge bashing post. I don't mind the bridge at all. However, since Epiphone has had success with the more classic style two piece bridge on the Vintage Pro line, wouldn't you think Gibson, especially under their new and better direction, would follow suit? Even the Oversized Les Paul Basses from years ago got a TOM style bridge. Again, not a criticism, just genuinely curious.
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I’d guess that Gibson has years of 3 point inventory in their parts bin. Think about the Fender sale to CBS in early 1965. Rumor has it CBS Fender was using pre CBS parts up to about 1970. So even if Gibson phased out the 3 point today it could possibly take years to deplete the entire supply. And as our Queen noted, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Gibson was reluctant to adopt the Epiphone VP two piece bridge (my personal favorite) because it wasn’t designed by “Gibson” and because of Epiphone’s QC problems with that bridge on a large number of their Embassy basses. Also keep in mind Gibson leadership is very much under the gun to increase market share and profits as a result of their recent restructure, that business environment has a tendency to stifle risk taking and thinking outside the box.

All that considered, I’m surprised Gibby even launched the new NR, but I’m sure glad they did, even with the three point, which is a perfectly functional bridge.
 
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Tanner5382 said:
Random thought that entered my head, which has probably been discussed here before.

Why do you think Gibson continues went with the three point bridge on these NRs, or even continues with it on the Reverses? Don't get me wrong, this isn't a standard three point bridge bashing post. I don't mind the bridge at all. However, since Epiphone has had success with the more classic style two piece bridge on the Vintage Pro line, wouldn't you think Gibson, especially under their new and better direction, would follow suit? Even the Oversized Les Paul Basses from years ago got a TOM style bridge. Again, not a criticism, just genuinely curious.
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GonePlaid said:
Parts bin?
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Price?
 
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#183,480
Nocturnal said:
All this Pelham Blue talk. I picked this up today for next to nothing from my tech/friend. Its brand new and nicely setup.

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That color is just drool worthy! And that’s Pelham Blue? Seems close to the new Gibson NR green. Then again these colors probably look slightly different on everyone’s screen. I’ve been very JC curious but can’t find any local ones to try and seems like the used ones on Reverb are nearly the same price as a new one.

I understand they have a unique voicing, is there another bass you’d liken it to sound wise?
 
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