Thunderbird questions.

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by metalandjazzman, Jul 23, 2009.

  1. metalandjazzman


    Oct 22, 2008
    Well i want to ask some questions about the Epiphone Thunderbird i have.

    1 Is the Thunderbird good at playing jazz? I am not experience enough to play jazz to find out my self.

    2 What kind of frets that are on the Thunderbird? Is there kind of scale of measurement for frets?

    3 I don't know whats wrong with the neck it is perfectly in tune its that the strings are tight to tight for it to be tune to E,A,D,G.

    Well these are my questions. And if these are simple questions for you guy's please don't treat me like a idiot.
  2. Thunderitter

    Thunderitter Bass, the final frontier... Supporting Member

    Jun 6, 2007
    A Thunderbird is more versatile than some would tell you. You may look a bit different from your average jazz cat, but if you've got the technique, chops and the scales, sure you can do it on a T-bird. You may find however that you will need to experiment with your amp to get a tone that works.

    The bass has a 34" scale length. As far as I know the frets are nickel/silver. Not sure what you mean otherwise about a scale of measurement for the frets?

    Sounds like you may have tightened your strings too much! De-tune and start again, slowly this time and if your not using one, invest in a tuner!

    Asking questions is a good thing - don't apologize, it's how we all lean at some time or another!!
  3. metalandjazzman


    Oct 22, 2008
    I did not tune it to tight. Its just that the strings are too tight for the tuning i think some things wrong with the trust rod. Are thunderbird's notorious for trust rods out of wack?
  4. bui


    Feb 24, 2009
    Perhaps the strings are cut too short? My Thunderbird is probably 1+ years old (forgot to ask previous owner), but no truss rod issues.
  5. metalandjazzman


    Oct 22, 2008
    How can you tell theres something wrong with the truss rod?
  6. MetroBass


    Mar 26, 2008
    South of LA
    Hatred obscures all distinctions.
    Warpped neck?

    Strings to tight: may be the guage / brand you're using. I play Roto flats on my T-bird and have never had an issue with " too tight" or the truss rod.
  7. bassplayeroreo


    Jun 8, 2009
    Tel Aviv
    Might the strings be short-scale strings? I'm not sure about that but I can't really find another reason for it to be too tight.
  8. Thunderitter

    Thunderitter Bass, the final frontier... Supporting Member

    Jun 6, 2007
    A full tightened truss rod is not going to change your tuning by more than a couple of tones or so. It will also most likely render your bass playable, with everything buzzing below the 7th fret.

    Can you confirm that you have the strings on the bass, wound around the tuning heads and is there another way you can describe the phrase "too tight for the tuning" - do you mean too short for example?
  9. BassistX


    Mar 4, 2008
    Dude, you are gonna look like Kirk Hammet showed up at the Blue Note cellar if you know what I mean, but - and due diligence declared unapologetically from a T-bird player - your Bird can walk Charlie Parker and his gang all the way downtown, man! ;-)

    Nothing to add to what other posters have added on question 2 and 3. Sounds like you may have a serious neck bow issue there perhaps.
  10. No offence, but the OP seems to have a general lack of experience. Nothing wrong with that, no one is born with the info. I think it may be time to take your instrument to a pro tech or luthier and have him give it a once over. Ask a ton of questions. Also visit the setup forum.

    As far as jazz, why not?
  11. metalandjazzman


    Oct 22, 2008
    I play Erny Ball Extra Heavy gauge on my T bird. But my Goal is to Get the T-Bird studio five string. But did Gibson stop making T-birds so that there sister company Epiphone can make them?
    The old Gibson T-birds are like collectors items now.
  12. Ive heard that about older Funders (sp) too.
  13. eno50


    Jan 31, 2009
    North of Memphis
    Nothing wrong with the epi thunderbird, alittle tweaking and a set up is all you need,I had to play around with mine alittle to get the best out of her,and you can play any type of music with her,just dial in the right tone and your good to go.
    I find ,and on most basses is that you cand change the tone just by plucking in different spots,try plucking between the pick-ups It seems to my sweet spot on the bird,or try near the bridge for a more tighter and alittle brighter sound,play with your tone knob and also your controlls on your amp.
    My advice would be to take her to sombody who knows how to do a set up,or do a search and find some info on how to do your own set up,it is not that hard to do,and it is a good thing to learn how to do,it will save you money down the road.
    There is no special bass for Jazz,Jazz players use many different brands or styles of basses ,all you got to do is learn to play Jazz and apply it to your bass.
    Good luck to you Eno
  14. metalandjazzman


    Oct 22, 2008
    Cool thanks!
  15. Showdown


    Jan 21, 2002
    Honolulu, Hawaii
    The truss rod wouldn't cause the strings to be too tight. The best thing would be to take it to a guitar tech and have him look at it for you. I can't think of a single reason why you wouldn't be able to tune it to the correct pitch. I've owned upwards of 30 basss in my life, and have never had that happen. Either you are using the wrong strings, or you are tuning to the wrong pitch (maybe an octave high?).
  16. metalandjazzman


    Oct 22, 2008
    Thanks maybe its that the tuning pegs are lined up with each other not side to side. When i went to bass lessons my teacher play'd it for a bit and notice that the truss rod is out of wack. It was like a sick sense to him as soon as he held it and he knew that somethings wrong. He told me that with Gibson and Epiphone models that the trusrods usually go out of place during shipping.
  17. Sharko


    Jun 18, 2009
    Washington, DC
  18. metalandjazzman


    Oct 22, 2008
    I mean sixth sense i spelled it wrong.
  19. My bass has 4 pegs in a row on the top and 2 in a row in the bottom, which is the best of both worlds and has alleviated any possibility of the issues you describe.
  20. metalandjazzman


    Oct 22, 2008
    Are the Thunderbird hard shell cases going to be worth anything in the near future? Cause i was thinking of trading the case in for
    a gig bag.