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Thunderfunk VS. Markbass

#41
Thanks for the replies. I know it's a little unfair to compare the two since we're talking almost twice the price.

I think I can get a chance to try out a TFB locally, so I'm gonna check that out soon. I'd have to order a LMII, and I'm just not ready to do that yet.

I'm drawn to the old school, yet clean descriptions; along with the eq section of the TFB.
 
#43
jmain said:
Could I run my drum machine into the fx return to play along?
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yes you can because the effects loop runs in parrallel to the main signal unless you change a jumper switch inside so the drum machine would be overlaid on to the main signal.
At a gig last year my guitarists amp stopped working near the end and he went in to my FX return. it wasnt ideal but it got us through the gig.
 
#44
dave_bass5 said:
yes you can because the effects loop runs in parrallel to the main signal unless you change a jumper switch inside so the drum machine would be overlaid on to the main signal.
At a gig last year my guitarists amp stopped working near the end and he went in to my FX return. it wasnt ideal but it got us through the gig.
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Good to know, Dave.

Have you got your LMII back yet? Care to give some opinions on the differences b/t the SA450 and LMII?
 
#45
jmain said:
Good to know, Dave.

Have you got your LMII back yet? Care to give some opinions on the differences b/t the SA450 and LMII?
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Sorry, i dont own a LMII, just the SA450
I did use one at two gigs though and they do sound the same if everything is flat. I go the SA450 because of the mid EQ as i use a 1210 cab and needed to tame the mids. fo rthat it works well although i find i dont really need to use the mid controls much.
 
#54
werbo1 said:
Semi-Hijack, My Apotlogies: Anyone have a review of a markbass LMK2 or SA501 (I guess) with a Schroeder 1212 or 1210?

I'm gassing that all over right now.
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As i use a SA450 and 1210 you could try searching my posts to read what i think of them. I cant remember all that ive said and ive not acutally done any reviews but bottom line is its bloody loud (4ohms 1210) and irritates my guitarist as i can get louder than him.
I find the cab adds a lot of its own tone to whatever amp you use. im not 100% on the 1210 (in fact i now use a Epifani UL115 with one band) but the SA450 doesnt need a lot of EQ to sound good enough for my uses. Having the extra control over the mids is a good idea with the 1210 cab. it can be too middy sometimes.
 
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dave_bass5 said:
As i use a SA450 and 1210 you could try searching my posts to read what i think of them. I cant remember all that ive said and ive not acutally done any reviews but bottom line is its bloody loud (4ohms 1210) and irritates my guitarist as i can get louder than him.
I find the cab adds a lot of its own tone to whatever amp you use. im not 100% on the 1210 (in fact i now use a Epifani UL115 with one band) but the SA450 doesnt need a lot of EQ to sound good enough for my uses. Having the extra control over the mids is a good idea with the 1210 cab. it can be too middy sometimes.
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Do you prefer using the eq over the filters to tweak the mid?
 
#56
SMASH said:
I was not digging on older MarkBass stuff I tried, but demo'd an LMII today and came away very impressed and without my old concerns. I just wish it had a mute and a toggle externally (rather than internal jumper) for pre/post EQ DI out.

I owned/gigged a TFB. I disagree that it seemed any louder than what the ratings suggest. The MarkBass seemed as loud to me, though I certainly didn't A/B.

I preferred the two LME/LMV (can't quite recall the names) controls on the MarkBass to the Timbre on the TF.

MB is smaller, lighter, cheaper, and while I sold my TF I might be buying a MB. If nothing else, it'd make a killer backup and while I should bring a backup head to gigs I seldom do. With the MB I can put it in my gigbag and at only 6 lbs not really notice it much. Can't do that with a TF.

Brad, if you've now gigged these, what do you prefer or will you at least say what difference you hear? I had the Gibson too, so compare/contrast to that one as well if you think it worthwhile.
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The LME control on the Markbass (I think that is the one) is similar to the enhance on the TF. The LMV seems like a cool idea. However, if your bass has a vintage type tone control, then it would be somewhat redundant.

The Timbre is a totally different thing, and many find it quite extraordinary, and relatively unique in the industry (all the way back to the earlier versions of the amp). The only other circuit that is similar that I know of is the balance control on the WW Ultra, which similarly revoices the amp from low to high.

The Markbass stuff seems pretty cool... I still have not seen one, but will look forward to checking it out.

Regarding the TF's volume, I don't think it's that it sounds louder than 550 watts, just that a number of other small two space amps with similar or even higher power ratings so not seem to be able to keep up with the TF when cranked on loud gigs. This might be due to the very nice mid present voicing of the amp, and the slightly compressed and tight low end. This voicing (as you know I'm sure) can result in higher apparent volume versus a head that produces very wide deep bass like the SWR amps or the iAmp's, etc. IMO
 
#57
KJung said:
The LME control on the Markbass (I think that is the one) is similar to the enhance on the TF. The LMV seems like a cool idea. However, if your bass has a vintage type tone control, then it would be somewhat redundant.

The Timbre is a totally different thing, and many find it quite extraordinary, and relatively unique in the industry (all the way back to the earlier versions of the amp). The only other circuit that is similar that I know of is the balance control on the WW Ultra, which similarly revoices the amp from low to high.

The Markbass stuff seems pretty cool... I still have not seen one, but will look forward to checking it out.

Regarding the TF's volume, I don't think it's that it sounds louder than 550 watts, just that a number of other small two space amps with similar or even higher power ratings so not seem to be able to keep up with the TF when cranked on loud gigs. This might be due to the very nice mid present voicing of the amp, and the slightly compressed and tight low end. This voicing (as you know I'm sure) can result in higher apparent volume versus a head that produces very wide deep bass like the SWR amps or the iAmp's, etc. IMO
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LME and LMV, do you mean VLE and VPF?
 
#59
KJung said:
Regarding the TF's volume, I don't think it's that it sounds louder than 550 watts, just that a number of other small two space amps with similar or even higher power ratings so not seem to be able to keep up with the TF when cranked on loud gigs. This might be due to the very nice mid present voicing of the amp, and the slightly compressed and tight low end. This voicing (as you know I'm sure) can result in higher apparent volume versus a head that produces very wide deep bass like the SWR amps or the iAmp's, etc. IMO
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Agreed and I'd also like to add that some comanies (SWR immediately comes to mind) overstate their wattage ratings. But I have to agree, the T-Funk is loud and lines up with it's stated wattage, but it's not deafening or anything. My DB750 crushes my T-Funk in pure volume (it's not even close). Now that's an amp that I would say is VERY loud for it's rated watted (the DB)!
 
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KJung said:
Probably (and I guess obviously)... I was just copying SMASH's post since I don't have the amp or manual in front of me. One is a typical enhance control, the other is a 'passive' type treble roll-off from what I understand.
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IMO theese filters are very cool. I use the VPF(variable preshape filter) alot, and IMO it works better than the enchance on the Eden amps
 

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