I can live with the E and G strings (100 and 43) on the Jazz flat set but would really love an A and D string around 75 and 60!
Is that too much to ask for?!?
Is that too much to ask for?!?
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TI we beg you for a slightly heavier 34" scale Jazz Flat set!
- Thread starter John J Nicholas
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Makes sense if you want proportionality e.g
If you took the 6 string set's B to C, the ratio to find the E A D G string gauges would be .7533. Rounded up being
.136 x .7533 =.102 ( Actual gauge = .100)
.102x .7533 = .077 ( Actual gauge = .070)
.076x.7533 = .058 ( Actual guage .056)
.057x.7533 = .044 ( Actual gauge .043)
.044x.7533 = .033 ( Actual gauge .033)
So you can see the A string .070 departs from the proportionality ratio the most.
At least get the A string increased in diameter, like La Bella did with their LTF's, which were modeled on this set, about a year in when they realized that the A string was the floppiest-good-for-nothing-no-better-than-a-rubber-band string out there.
I really wish TI could produce some flats with increased tension. There are some of us that don't like floppy strings. I tried their 43-100 set some ten years ago and had to take it off. I wish there was something like 50-110.
If the TIs don't work for you there are lots of other choices out there that probably will.
They are definately asleep at the wheel. I would recommend they follow a similar business model, like what Dogal did with the Hellborgs. ie; Get a famous jazz player to endorse and revamp the Jazz Flats. Easy money.
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I think most of their business - by a very wide margin - is in strings for orchestral string instruments and they’re extremely well regarded in that world. I expect they don’t pay nearly as much attention to their electric instrument string sales as other companies would.
I’m not saying that’s a good reason for them to be asleep at the wheel but I think it’s probably a viable explanation.
I agree totally. That's why I went to Dogal. I have never used TI's or Dogals orchestra upright strings, but Dogal just seems to have their finger on the pulse of the electric players currently. Kind of a mirror image from both companies. Dogal has minimal offerings for upright vs TI, but TI has minimal offerings for electric.
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It's most likely a numbers thing: they make new strings for violin, viola, and cello very regularly because they make up the bulk of those purchasing orchestral strings, double bass much less regularly (their last official release was the Belcantos almost 20 years ago, although they are prototyping a new set right now), and then for guitars I have no idea how often they create new or revise product lines.
It's also worth pointing out that there's waaaay fewer orchestral string manufacturers compared to guitar string manufacturers and orchestral strings generally have a more complex construction compared to guitar strings: steel strings are all flatwound with the exception of violin high Es (which are usually plain, sometimes plated, steel I think?); the core can be solid steel, stranded steel, steel rope, or synthetic (usually nylon); and there's usually a damping material between the core and winding to reduce harsh overtones. As such, the market is mostly confined to a few very large brands (for upper strings I think it's TI, Pirastro, D'Addario, Larsen, and Jargar; for bass it's TI, Pirastro, and D'Addario) with a handful of very small brands.
Somewhat on-topic for the thread: I like the way TI Jazz Flats and Jazz Rounds feel as they are, but goddamn I wish the Jazz Rounds came with an outer winding that wasn't pure nickel because pure nickel rounds are just too dark for my personal tastes: I like that they have really present low mids, but I also like having top-end clarity that I've really only found with stainless steel strings (or at least that top end doesn't go away as fast as it does with NPS strings).
Maybe this is because I'm in the US and not Europe, but anecdotally I've never seen a single string player use Dogal orchestra strings.
I agree, the orchestra offerings, are not very popular here. Somebody buys them though--they left decent reviews on stringsbymail.
On another similar note; I don't hear alot about Dogal Carbonsteel rounds on TB. Maybe because they are imported with a higher price-tag. I was thinking of starting a thread just yesterday about DCS's and a poll on; who uses them and why and why they don't. Imo, they totally sizzle and are the best rounds, that I have ever strung up my long scales with. Weird.
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i too would love better gauges in the TI flats as I like a little more gauge under my fingers. but for flats I dont' know if ill ever sway from Labella
