TI we beg you for a slightly heavier 34" scale Jazz Flat set!

[djmay]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I use TI flats on all my basses; fretless 5 and 6, fretted 5 and 6. I recently bought a fretless 6, which had Galli Jazz Flats. I put on 20-year-old TI Flats (I have ordered a new set) on it and tonal range came alive. I changed nothing else such as eq.

Some people think they are floppy. However, by changing your right hand position and attack, you can vary your tone and dynamics as you wish. This also what I do on my cello with bow location, pressure and bow speed.

 

[Prodigus Filius]

Keep the G and D the same but up the A and E to 75 and 102. If tossing in the B string, up that to 140

 

[Makten]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I use TI flats on all my basses; fretless 5 and 6, fretted 5 and 6. I recently bought a fretless 6, which had Galli Jazz Flats. I put on 20-year-old TI Flats (I have ordered a new set) on it and tonal range came alive. I changed nothing else such as eq.

Some people think they are floppy. However, by changing your right hand position and attack, you can vary your tone and dynamics as you wish. This also what I do on my cello with bow location, pressure and bow speed.

So why not use even thinner strings if you can get everything the same by "adjusting technique"? And why does every other manufacturer offer beefier strings if it's not necessary?

TI strings are floppy compared to almost everything else on the planet. Which is fine if you like floppy strings. But they really, really should do them in thicker gauges as well. I love the sound but hate the feel of them.

 

[djmay]

So why not use even thinner strings if you can get everything the same by "adjusting technique"? And why does every other manufacturer offer beefier strings if it's not necessary?

TI strings are floppy compared to almost everything else on the planet. Which is fine if you like floppy strings. But they really, really should do them in thicker gauges as well. I love the sound but hate the feel of them.

They are not for you. Use whatever you want.

 

[Makten]

They are not for you. Use whatever you want.

That's a very lame answer. You argued that one could change technique to make them work. That's not the reason that most strings have way higher tension.

 

[Ricky Rioli]

They already have Pino...you can't get better than that

Meanwhile, in Fort Ball, a plan was being hatched......

 

[2saddleslab]

While the gauge of TI flats were initially a bit off-putting compared to the LaBella & GHS flats I was using at the time, once installed the lighter gauge was never given another thought. The tone, comfort, & feel give me everything I want.

 

[BruceG68]

I have a set of Jazz Flats on my G+L Fullerton Deluxe JB and they are heavy enough.What I would like to see is a heavier set set of the Jazz Rounds.Instead of bottoming out at 89 how about 100 to 105.That would be a set of strings I would be interested in.

 

[HaphAsSard]

I have a set of Jazz Flats on my G+L Fullerton Deluxe JB and they are heavy enough.What I would like to see is a heavier set set of the Jazz Rounds.Instead of bottoming out at 89 how about 100 to 105.That would be a set of strings I would be interested in.

Some TBers use the superlong-scale set (JR364) on regular-scale basses. Gauges are larger, tensions - even when recalculated for 34" scale - are higher (or, um, less low?) and more balanced, and high flexibility makes it safe to install at full gauge on the posts. An option to consider.

 

[BruceG68]

That sounds interesting.No one has had any problems wrapping them around the post?

 

[HaphAsSard]

I have a set of Jazz Flats on my G+L Fullerton Deluxe JB and they are heavy enough.What I would like to see is a heavier set set of the Jazz Rounds.Instead of bottoming out at 89 how about 100 to 105.That would be a set of strings I would be interested in.

Some TBers use the superlong-scale set (JR364) on regular-scale basses. Gauges are larger, tensions - even when recalculated for 34" scale - are higher (or, um, less low?) and more balanced, and high flexibility makes it safe to install at full gauge on the posts. An option to consider.

That sounds interesting.No one has had any problems wrapping them around the post?

I can only direct you to posts by folks that succeeded

They do; the JR364 set.

Gauges are: .043, .055, .075, .101

While ostensibly only for extra-long scale basses, I have used this set on my regular 34" scale basses with no problems at all...you just end up having a bit of the unwrapped part of the lower strings on your tuning posts, but if they are the larger (Fender) size posts, these string are flexible enough that's it's not an issue.

You're welcome

I have a set of those 36 inch scale strings on my body through P Bass, and the strings themselves still wrap around the posts. I haven't had any problem with them yet, but it is prone to breakage that way. I guess the round cores and super low tension of the strings keep it from breaking.

I have used the super long set on a regular Jazz bass in the past and they were fine. With super flexible strings like these, there is no problem winding some of the "speaking" length around the tuner posts. They do feel a little stiffer to the right hand than the regular set, but still less stiff than "normal" rounds. A nice compromise.

I may be a bad person...

I've been trying different strings on my G&L ASAT for a while now. It usually sounds good, just doesn't always sound right, if that makes any sense.

Well, I'd ordered the wrong TI Jazz Rounds a while back, getting the super long scale (36" JR364) instead of the right ones (34" JR344). When I was digging through my box 'o strings I figured, hey, why not? They're 101-75-55-43, putting them in the neighborhood of typical string gauges.

I really, really like them.

They sound huge, deep, and round, with a great mellow top and clear articulation that pairs well with those G&L MFDs. They feel like the nicest, smoothest rounds I've ever played.

They're certainly more flexible than most, but the tension and gauge is vaguely "normal." I didn't need to adjust my truss rod after coming from medium-light GHS Balanced Nickels, for instance. I don't feel like I need to adjust my plucking/picking much, unlike the standard long-gauge Jazz Rounds. Their flexibility still makes bends and other left-hand embellishments a dream, though.

Okay, so I guess they're like Jazz Rounds, but easier to play without adjusting so much for the lower tension...

Anyone else ever tried something like this? Am I out of my mind? Is some eldritch horror going to come after me for breaking the "You can't just go putting whatever strings on there just because you feel like it" rule?

Fender 9050L flats (45-100) and/or TI Jazz Rounds JR364 (43-101) Jazz Super Long (cut to size).

and see if they've got anything to add.

 

[Prodigus Filius]

Some TBers use the superlong-scale set (JR364) on regular-scale basses. Gauges are larger, tensions - even when recalculated for 34" scale - are higher (or, um, less low?) and more balanced, and high flexibility makes it safe to install at full gauge on the posts. An option to consider.

JR is the Jazz rounds. The 36” scale Jazz Flats have the G D and A strings souped up a bit compared to the 34” scale. The E string is actually smaller gauge than the 34” scale string, .096. The B is the same girth

 

[BruceG68]

I can only direct you to posts by folks that succeeded





and see if they've got anything to add.

Thank You
I think I will try a set down the road.

 

[frankie5string]

Years ago I remember TI advertising that lower tension as a benefit to people who played vintage basses. Their claim was that the lower tension placed less pressure on the neck - so if you had a ratty old Jazz bass with a maxed out truss-rod, they would be less likely to bow the neck, and their rubberiness would make them a little easier to play at higher action if needed. I found both of those things to be mostly true. You can run TIs a little higher action-wise, but they're so "soft" under the fingers that they are still easy to play.

After years of using TI Jazz flats on my Fenders, I decided to swing in a completely different direction and go back to Roto TruBass 88 strings... It was fun playing those TIs, and I loved them for a lot of stuff, but they had so much midrange in one very narrow part of the spectrum and some of the people I worked with were getting tired of that really plucky midrange honk.

I still like the TI Jazz Rounds on my Vintera II P, though. Those are completely different sonically.

 

[Yahboy]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I use TI flats on all my basses; fretless 5 and 6, fretted 5 and 6. I recently bought a fretless 6, which had Galli Jazz Flats. I put on 20-year-old TI Flats (I have ordered a new set) on it and tonal range came alive. I changed nothing else such as eq.

Some people think they are floppy. However, by changing your right hand position and attack, you can vary your tone and dynamics as you wish. This also what I do on my cello with bow location, pressure and bow speed.

Can't agree more !!!

 

[Yahboy]

I can live with the E and G strings (100 and 43) on the Jazz flat set but would really love an A and D string around 75 and 60!

Is that too much to ask for?!?

Suggest spend more playing time for it..... More you play, you can feel how great their string to string stiffness balance on you plucking finger.

I been trying Ti flat on both ibby SR bass and Yamaha TRBX 504, I am not happy with the tone result, but I can feel both E and A string has slightly stiffness different than Ti flat on bass has Fender headstock design. Maybe pull back headstock design do help or change on string pulling tension.