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Ties, man

#41
two fingers said:
You're a wee bit sensitive about a lot of things, aren't you? :roflmao:

Ties aren't an "issue". They are simply traditional formal wear. Lots of cultures have traditional formal wear. Western culture is a culture. It is not "unjust" or "sexist". It's simply our culture. We should be allowed to have a culture like any other country/continent/tribe/nation/religion.

If you choose not to participate, fine. But taking it to some sort of passive-aggressive protest level is a bit much. :cool:
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i disagree with most of what you said but appreciate that you shared your opinion, you’re certainly not shy to do so...i do like that about you, but more importantly I apologize to the OP and everyone who read this thread as my comment was only vaguely “tied” in to the OPs so i became that guy and and getting off topic and for that i apologize
 
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#42
Old Garage-Bander said:
This is a real gut splitter. :D

However, I was reading this at exactly the same time the TV is on and one of the Bush granddaughters was reading from the bible during HW’s services. It all created a very weird juxtaposition in my head. No disrespect meant. It’s just how it happen to work out.

RIP 41.
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Agreed. Please note when the severed spleen of he horicierous beast becomes cognizant, and learns to drive a stick shift, we all miss former US Presidents that much more.
 
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#43
two fingers said:
You're a wee bit sensitive about a lot of things, aren't you? :roflmao:

Ties aren't an "issue". They are simply traditional formal wear. Lots of cultures have traditional formal wear. Western culture is a culture. It is not "unjust" or "sexist". It's simply our culture. We should be allowed to have a culture like any other country/continent/tribe/nation/religion.

If you choose not to participate, fine. But taking it to some sort of passive-aggressive protest level is a bit much. :cool:
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Agreed.
Part of the culture was wearing a tie to a baseball game back in the day. Wow, times have changed. These days I see a lot of shorts, sweatpants and T-shirts at the game.
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The way I heard it, and it could be totally wrong, but makes a good story about why the “suits” are looked upon “differently” by the non-suits.

The neck tie was originally a napkin. One that is tucked into a shirt collar and hangs down in front to protect clothing from food getting on the front of oneself. At a time when people were divided into classes more than they are now, eh heh. The aristocracy wore napkins when they ate, the working class did not. As the napkin evolved into the neck tie, it was worn by the “suits” and continued to make a distinction between those who rule (the bosses and other “important” people) and those who are ruled. Wearing the tie supposedly elevated you to a higher social strata, even if only temporarily.
 
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Old Garage-Bander said:
The way I heard it, and it could be totally wrong, but makes a good story about why the “suits” are looked upon “differently” by the non-suits.

The neck tie was originally a napkin. One that is tucked into a shirt collar and hangs down in front to protect clothing from food getting on the front of oneself. At a time when people were divided into classes more than they are now, eh heh. The aristocracy wore napkins when they ate, the working class did not. As the napkin evolved into the neck tie, it was worn by the “suits” and continued to make a distinction between those who rule (the bosses and other “important” people) and those who are ruled. Wearing the tie supposedly elevated you to a higher social strata, even if only temporarily.
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I love a good yarn.
 
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I have a rack full of ties, but haven't needed to wear one for some time. I am perfectly OK with wearing them if and when the occasion requires it, but those occasions seldom occur. At work I don't need one, and at conferences I may wear a suit with a knit top or turtleneck; it's just more comfortable.

There is some sense of liberation in not having to operate in a role where they are required.
 
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#54
blowinblue said:
Ties? Did someone mention ties? My father taught me to tie a full Windsor at around 9 years of age. Sometime in my late thirties I switched to a half Windsor. Hard to tell from the photo but the right half includes 52 Jerry Garcia labeled ties. My wife likes them. Finally had to ask her to stop buying them. Each hanger holds between 9 and 11 ties. About 10 ties have been added since this was taken. Crazy, I know. :)

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I remember having a collection like that, even the Garcia ties. I always liked those and they'd go on sale quite often.
Nowadays, I'm down to 10.

-Mike
 
#55
ahc said:
If I could travel back in time I would strangle the Earl de Cravatt with his infernal creation. Why would anyone willingly put a noose around their neck??? And yes, I wore ties for years at work. And hated it.
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Not exactly a tie, but in the mid 80s I had a bunch of silk scarves - the square ones, like a big handkerchief. I had, I think, three of them knotted corner to corner to make a loop. I'd wear that loosely doubled around my neck and I thought I looked pretty slick.

One night walking home, a gold watch went flying past my head and smacked into the chain link fence next to me. Look ahead and there's a big old guy screaming and shoving a woman around, calling her a this and a that. She's trying to defend herself and calm him down at the same time.

So naturally I walk up with the watch, hold it out and start to say something calming, I forget what. He smashes the watch out of my hand, grabs the scarf and tightens it, and starts laying in with his other fist. She's telling him to stop, telling me to butt out, I'm trying to breath and block punches... And then I hear a shout, and there's a bunch of what looks like his family coming across the road from a restaurant.

I hear something along the lines of 'hold on Dad, we'll get the bastard'.

At which point I decided they could sort it out amongst themselves.

Stopped wearing the scarves after that.
 
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#56
knuckleduster said:
I was thinking about this thread when I was browsing the Salvation Army thrift store yesterday. They had the ugliest tie I've ever seen, for the low, low price of 99¢

It was this horrible purple/cranberry color, not quite mauve, but still subdued. It had green and gold grape leaves on the middle third of the tie, followed by purple and gold grapes filling up the entire bottom third.
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You shoulda got it
 
#58
I can't figure out why I can't tie THE SAME the reliably. The dumb thing is way too long for me (and red to boot) and it's a required bit of kit for a vocal ensemble I'm in. So I tie a Trinity knot because it uses lot of tie and comes out perfectly...except when for some unknown reason I can't get past one particular step in the process. So I get the iPad and YouTube, and yeah that's what I'm doing... Only it's not, somehow, and darn it all to heck. Eventually I'll get it, but I still haven't figured out why it works or doesn't. Clearly I'm not understanding the difference between This and That at one point in the process. Argh

Maybe I should just practice sometime when I'm not already ten minutes late.
 
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