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GoCDerek

Feb 23, 2009
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#1
I had made a thread asking how important the bass role is in a band, and it kind of turned into a question on what to buy, so to keep it more organized, I decided to create a new thread.

I had mentioned in the thread that I'm looking into playing Hard Rock and Metal, I had also posted some links.

Amp:
http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend...90W-1x12-Aluminum-Cone-Bass-Combo-?sku=481095
Amp:
http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Marshall-MB30-Bass-Amp-Combo?sku=480304
Bass:
http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Dean-ML-Metalman-4String-Bass?sku=519353
Bass:
http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Dean-V-Metalman-4String-Bass?sku=519352

Those are just some I found while searching, not sure if they'll suit my needs. I'd like an all around nice bass, that will help me learn the bass, as well as be a nice bass to use when I get more into it, and join a band. Same thing with the amp, I'd like the amp to be used in the future at gigs or whatever, if possible.


I'm going to go to Guitar Center later this week and try some basses out, but I'd like to know what I want before I go.






Thanks.
 
#4
I'd say both amps are under-powered for what you're asking. As for your choice of basses, I'll say go with the V, because I like its shape more.
However, listen to some of your favorite bands, listen for the bass, find out what the bassist plays for the one you like, and get it.
Most importantly, buy both used, check out your local craigslist. Most people will probably be nice enough to give you a few tips for playing when you buy from them!
 
#6
Good to know about that amp, lol. I also considered used, but I was going through my local CL, and most of the stuff was obviously used, but priced as new..

I like the V shape too, but I also found out the only case that would fit it, is about $130.

And what do I need to look for in an amp for it to be used at a gig or something.


If it helps, I like the bassist in Korn, and I think he mainly uses an Ibanez. So maybe something near that genre, so I can branch off a bit?


Thanks.
 
#11
BigOldHarry said:
buy used. USED USED USED.
Click to expand...

Forget what he says.... buy USED.:p:D

Seriously, buy used.

Entry level Deans IMO are not giggable or good at loud volume. Put the same $200-300 into a used Fender MIM, Squier or even an Ibanez ATK. It will be good for your bedroom, basement, small gigs, etc.

On the other side of the coin, the basses you are looking at are under $200, so if you decided you don't like what you bought, you won't lose your shirt on resale!

Buy what you like, but used offers better value IMO. I currently own 13 basses and i bought only 2 of them new (both $250-300 Squiers). All my high end stuff was bought used.

Have fun!
 
#12
How do I determine a hard rock/metal bass, and bass amp?
Also, you mentioned the Ibanez ATK, that's the same size as a guitar, right? I'm not thrilled about that, lol. And what would work best for me, a 4 or 5 string?




Thanks.
 
#13
IMHO, there really isn't any such thing as a "bass for metal" or a "bass for rock." Whether or not you agree, we can likely agree there are basses one may view as good, OK, bad, cheap, expensive, good values, bad values, etc., right?

Your tastes in music will inevitably broaden, and your need for volume will increase, so consider getting an instrument that can get some of the classic tones, and as much "ommph" in the amp department as possible--I guess that is all pretty obvious.

As others above wisely said, "Buy used." You'll get twice as much quality and power for your money. Theatrically satisfying instrument designs in a budget bass are usually a good indication that you should look elsewhere, IMHO.

So, double or triple your budget (hypothetically). Go play and look at instruments in that price range, and then look for one of those used. If you have not played at all, borrow a bass and have a friend teach you one or two songs. Use those to try out basses at your local big box music store. Then look at craigslist for a local deal. All IMHO.
 
#14
Alrght, I assumed there were basses meant for certain genres, since I saw a Fender bass kit that had the word Blues on it, and I asked someone there for some info on a bass for my genre, and they geared me towards a Laguna kit.


I'll look around and try some stuff out before I buy.




Thanks.
 
#16
If you really look around at bassist's within the metal genre, you can find almost any brand of bass that exists. If you find a bass that feels comfortable for you, that is the biggest key. I would stay away from short-scale or hollow bodies, but other than that, its all up to you. I think a used Ibanez or Schecter would be your best bet here. Neither is my favorite, but in your price range you will have a hard time doing better.

As far as amps, you should try to find a combo with at least a 12" or 15" speaker, or 2 10" speakers. Try to get at least 150-200 watts, anything less will get buried by a metal drummer. Also, try to find one that has another speaker output so you can add another cabinet to your combo down the road should you need more volume. Peavey has been making great 1x15 combos like this for years, a used TNT will likely be affordable and have enough power for you to start playing with other musicians.
 
#18
I dont know where you live but if you have a Sam Ash in your vicinity you might also want to look at ESP.
They have some decent stuff close to your price range.

Like several people have told you-if you go to GC, play as many different basses as possible. You never know what you might find.

Also-dont just focus on the wild shapes, some of them might not be comfortable for you.
I had an Explorer shaped bass back in the 80's and I could NOT get comfortable with it-EVER. I've discovered that P and J shaped bodies work best for me.
 
#20
4 or 5 string? Tough question to answer.

Some people feel that you should start with a 4 string and work your way up as you get more comfortable.

Other people say go for the gusto and get a 5 string right away. Personally, I have no strong feelings one way or the other. I was playing bass for about 12 years before I got my first 5 string. I've now been playing for almost 30 years and my second 5 string literally arrived at my house today. :hyper:

For the music I'm playing right now, the extra low range is not necessary but I have it available if I need it.

The nice thing about a 5 string is that you dont have to tune down to reach the lower notes that a lot of today's metal bands use all the time.
 

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