Tiny Head, Same Big Speaker Cabs: What's the Point?

[Marley's Ghost]

I used my Markbass LMT800 with a 70's SVT8x10 at a club where the house SVT amp was blown and it sounded amazing. It's all good.

 

[Djadja]

Thx. That self-indulgent "demo" didn't do much for me. Seems like a really nice guy - but one heavy-handed player isn't he? But at least I now have some idea of what the cab can do in the wake of that onslaught. I'll have to run into NYC and see if I can find and check one out in person. Someone's bound to have one. I'll blip Genzler and see who their dealers are. Appreciate your time and info sharing. Greatly appreciated.

He does what he does... it is difficult to find demos online that reflect the way that most of us actually play. I don't want to derail this thread any more than I already have beyond saying that I'm very happy with the Genzler gear - cabs & heads. I have the 112-3 and the 110-2 cabs and both of the heads.

Genzler is based in Brooklyn now so I'm sure there would be some way to check out the gear.

 

[Ian Lewis]

I am aware of the trend toward tiny, lightweight bass heads. That's all well and good, but what's the point if most speaker cabinets are just as large and heavy as they've always been. I am genuinely perplexed. Other than perhaps using a tiny bass head for practice (with headphones) or maybe the studio, what's the point of having it in a live setting?

I'm with you, however most cabinets are smaller than they used to be. A modern 4x10 or 2x12 puts out more volume than an old 8x10. I'm using a (fearless) 12/6/horn that is louder (and punchier) than my old 1x15. And the new magnets are so much lighter than the old ones that the cabinets are lighter anyway. Thankfully the days of lugging a valve amp and 18" W bin are gone!

 

[Ian Lewis]

So I have to go out and buy lightweight cabs to replace the ones I currently own?

Only if you want to save your back

 

[-Asdfgh-]

Agreed - although I really like TC's pedals and racked gear, I've been somewhat underwhelmed by their bass gear any time I've played thru it...

It seemed to he all mids and lacking the tubey richness it was supposed to capture. Maybe I was doing it wrong.

 

[Peteyboy]

I am aware of the trend toward tiny, lightweight bass heads. That's all well and good, but what's the point if most speaker cabinets are just as large and heavy as they've always been. I am genuinely perplexed. Other than perhaps using a tiny bass head for practice (with headphones) or maybe the studio, what's the point of having it in a live setting?

Honestly, maybe everyone has their threshold as to what they're willing to haul to a gig. Maybe you love tube amps. Maybe you have roadies. Maybe you have telekinetic powers. I personally feel like I'd rather have to haul 80 extra lbs of amp than to have to keep talking about it.
Love,
Sisyphus

 

[Korladis]

I think I did look at the BH250 at the time. 750 Watts is too much. The cabinet is only 350 Watts.
Never seen a TC product in person, so I have no idea what their o/d sounds like or if it can reach Motörhead levels.

It's okay. The RH750 is only like 250 watts.

 

[Downunderwonder]

It's okay. The RH750 is only like 250 watts.

243W to quote the fine print.

 

[Andrea Morse]

I am aware of the trend toward tiny, lightweight bass heads. That's all well and good, but what's the point if most speaker cabinets are just as large and heavy as they've always been. I am genuinely perplexed. Other than perhaps using a tiny bass head for practice (with headphones) or maybe the studio, what's the point of having it in a live setting?

Its really quite simple:
RevSound.

 

[dawind99]

I wish there was something like the TC crossed with the Tone Hammer. I like the O/D on the TH, but that parametric EQ on the TC would be enough for me to have kept the TH I had. The TH high is only 4 kHz, too low for guitar.
Tube guitar heads are too large of a footprint to fit on the RevSound 2x8"

We have a tube head in testing now that will fit on the top of and RS28 and has voicing for guitar and bass. It'll be a few more months. 6 position switchable high pass filter and optical compressor built in. Torroidal power and output transformers running my favorite power tubes that should easily last 3-4 years. The prototype sounds very good with bass and guitar. It's running class A/B II. 250 watts and @ 35lbs. The Revsound FB page will have updates.

 

[Killed_by_Death]

That sounds great, can't wait to see the features.

 

[DavesnothereCA]

60 lb. cab + 60 lb. head = 120 lb. and possibly two or three trips to the vehicle for everything.

60 lb. + 10 lb. = 70 lb. and one or two trips to the vehicle for everything.

Please don't pretend you can't grasp that the latter is less difficult.

That said, I have no particular affection for lightweight gear. I just like reducing the number of trips.

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My BACK and doctor each tell me that more trips with less weight per trip is safer.

Therefive, 30 LB cab + 30 LB cab + 20 LB head would be closer to my choice, plus my bass case and a small accessories case.

More likely 4 trips for me.
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[DavesnothereCA]

There is also an invention called a hand truck.

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I spent $40 on a collapsible one just today (half of its regular price), as a hedge until I get lighter cabs, and maybe even for after that.
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[Jeff Scott]

My BACK and doctor each tell me that more trips with less weight per trip is safer...

The flip side to this is that the greater number of trips back and forth for LI/LO increases you chance of tripping on a curb (or similar) and bashing your front teeth out...................

 

[/\/\3phist0]

these are great.
RockNRoller Multi-Cart transformable utility carts - Home

 

[DavesnothereCA]

The flip side to this is that the greater number of trips back and forth for LI/LO increases you chance of tripping on a curb (or similar) and bashing your front teeth out...................

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Yep, there's always something....

However, that said, I might still be able to walk after breaking my teeth.
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[BadExample]

My BACK and doctor each tell me that more trips with less weight per trip is safer.

Probably should listen to both.

 

[Stuart Ronson]

I am quite happy with my Trace Elliot AH300, 4 x 10, 1 x 14 and 2 x12. It gave me an excuse to buy a truck and it keeps me fit!!

 

[mesaplayer83]

these are great.
RockNRoller Multi-Cart transformable utility carts - Home

Sure are - I have one of those, and will never be without one after using one for awhile...

 

[dustybass]

I am aware of the trend toward tiny, lightweight bass heads. That's all well and good, but what's the point if most speaker cabinets are just as large and heavy as they've always been. I am genuinely perplexed. Other than perhaps using a tiny bass head for practice (with headphones) or maybe the studio, what's the point of having it in a live setting?[/QUO
Being perplexed is the drummer's job......I say since he only carries sticks, go buy a couple more Ampeg CL-300's and throw some 45 pound olympic plates in the bottoms of your 8x10's for good measure.