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Tiny Head, Same Big Speaker Cabs: What's the Point?

#161
Simplicity in setting up and tear down.
I can fit a dark glass head in my backpack, and it packs a solid punch. So I can roll my 8x10 onto stage, take my back pack off and be ready to go.

I like 8x10s, I like having the speakers up higher for monitor reference and I prefer the way mine sounds.. So no point in making extra trips for 2 4x10s when my 8x10 has wheels.
 
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Nakoatron said:
Simplicity in setting up and tear down.
I can fit a dark glass head in my backpack, and it packs a solid punch. So I can roll my 8x10 onto stage, take my back pack off and be ready to go.

I like 8x10s, I like having the speakers up higher for monitor reference and I prefer the way mine sounds.. So no point in making extra trips for 2 4x10s when my 8x10 has wheels.
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You need an inflatable 810 that you can store away in your backpack with your tiny head :thumbsup:.
 
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selowitch said:
I am aware of the trend toward tiny, lightweight bass heads. That's all well and good, but what's the point if most speaker cabinets are just as large and heavy as they've always been. I am genuinely perplexed. Other than perhaps using a tiny bass head for practice (with headphones) or maybe the studio, what's the point of having it in a live setting?
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Not for me- I have the TE Elf and the matching 110 cabinet. Cabinet is 12x12x14 around 15 lbs.
If I wanted to gig, I'd just add another one. (And if that isn;t loud enough then I am in the wrong band)
 
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selowitch said:
I am aware of the trend toward tiny, lightweight bass heads. That's all well and good, but what's the point if most speaker cabinets are just as large and heavy as they've always been. I am genuinely perplexed. Other than perhaps using a tiny bass head for practice (with headphones) or maybe the studio, what's the point of having it in a live setting?
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60 lb. cab + 60 lb. head = 120 lb. and possibly two or three trips to the vehicle for everything.

60 lb. + 10 lb. = 70 lb. and one or two trips to the vehicle for everything.

Please don't pretend you can't grasp that the latter is less difficult.

That said, I have no particular affection for lightweight gear. I just like reducing the number of trips.
 
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what's wrong with a tiny head?
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I can see this logic applying to someone who is lugging around an 8x10 - if you're hauling a fridge then what difference does it make if you have a bass amp that is small? I guess I could understand that...but...there are quite a few options for lightweight cabs which also have a small footprint and sound awesome (Markbass, GK, TC electronics).

Gone are the days of lugging a 165lb 8x10 fridge and a 75lb SVT head....or are they?
 
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Nakoatron said:
Simplicity in setting up and tear down.
I can fit a dark glass head in my backpack, and it packs a solid punch. So I can roll my 8x10 onto stage, take my back pack off and be ready to go.

I like 8x10s, I like having the speakers up higher for monitor reference and I prefer the way mine sounds.. So no point in making extra trips for 2 4x10s when my 8x10 has wheels.
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A 410 cabinet was designed by the devil as a way to cause endless misery, back problems, and pain. There is nothing good about the size and shape of a 410. You cannot make a 410 cabinet that's worth hearing that will not maim the person trying to move it. With a larger cabinet like an 810, weight matters less because you have geometry, physics, and leverage on your side. I move an enormous, heavy Acoustic 360 on a semi regular basis without problems. The ergonomics of it are just fine. The ergonomics of a 410 place any cabinet with that size and shape on my list of things to never, ever have anything to do with. It's like eating boiled beets, rolling in poison ivy, and hitting yourself with a hammer, all rolled into one, big, miserable package.

Lightweight heads make perfect sense, even with a big, heavy cabinet.
 
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Wow, 179 comments in half a day. We do love our opinions, don't we? Here's mine: The lightweight amps have come down in size and weight proportionally much more than the "lightweight" cabs have, so OP has a point, somewhat. The pinhead look is the new normal. I like the look of a Minimega on an F210, but it doesn't kick quite enough butt.
 

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