Tiny Head, Same Big Speaker Cabs: What's the Point?

[JRA]

what's the point of having it in a live setting?

i do it just to match my old-age body shape.

 

[dbase]

Hijak Hey Dbase where did you get the cart from?

magna cart.... musicians friend $70

 

[dbase]

True Value or Amazon.

musicians friend

 

[rtslinger]

musicians friend

okay thanks Hijak is now over you will be brought back to the thread, which is now in progress

 

[RoadRanger]

I went from a killer 150+ pound Trace Elliot rig,which took up a lot of space in the car, to a classD head and 38 pound 212. Drummer and I can drive together in a Hyundai hatchback, and it's one trip for me carrying everything (bass, cab, head, cables).

Yah, but your a gigging pro so no fair. This thread is for the TB bedroom surfers LOL.

 

[D.A.R.K.]

Yah, but your a gigging pro so no fair. This thread is for the TB bedroom surfers LOL.

Or the severely jaded.

 

[RoadRanger]

Yes, I used to own one. No overdrive.

At band volume it sho' 'nuf does - especially at 8 ohms .

 

[RoadRanger]

VELCRO. Problem solved...

Too obvious and easy - next! LOL

 

[/\/\3phist0]

A common fix for that if you have a rat fur covered cab is a length of velcro (hook side) that straddles the head and fastens to the cab. There are plenty of easy variations on that method.

Which brings back to mind a question I've had for decades: why is the head required to sit on top of the cab? It makes sense for a sales brochure photo but not so much for gigging. That's particularly relevant with the tiny heads now available. I'm considering getting a Trace Elliott Elf or Traynor SB200H for small-medium gigs because I can cobble up a nice mount for my mike stand that will hold the iPad on the left and the head on the right so I can tweak the amp settings without turning my back to the audience or climbing around a tiny stage.

Oh it may have something to do with running a speaker cable across the stage.

 

[Killed_by_Death]

At band volume it sho' 'nuf does

You're not going to get Motörhead level O/D out of a MB200.

 

[JaseyT]

I have a lightweight head and two regular, heavy-ish cabinets. The light head doesn't seem pointless to me, because, well...it's one less heavy thing I have to load. And once the cabinets are equipped with neo-magnet speakers, they'll be fairly easy to lug around.

 

[RoadRanger]

You're not going to get Motörhead level O/D out of a MB200.

Boost pedal might do it - if not any of the dozens of OD pedals

 

[PraiseBassing]

Cabs weight is limited by speakers weight and construction weight. Until a material begins being used that is strong enough to not flex and will be able to sustain falls and impact during transport, wood will continue to be used. Cab materials plus speaker materials dictate how light they can be.

Neo mags can save probably 30 pounds in extreme cases. Neo loaded cabs only have around 15 lbs in speakers... That means 50 lbs of everything else.

 

[Killed_by_Death]

Boost pedal might do it

I want O/D from the amp, not a pedal.
I own one pedal, out of functionality, DigiTech Drop.

In line with the topic, tiny amps. I think it's kind of strange to get a tiny amp & then plug pedals into it. Just get a bigger amp with the functionality you need.

This thread is for the TB bedroom surfers LOL.

I've never played bass (or guitar) in my bedroom.

 

[Wasnex]

I am aware of the trend toward tiny, lightweight bass heads. That's all well and good, but what's the point if most speaker cabinets are just as large and heavy as they've always been. I am genuinely perplexed. Other than perhaps using a tiny bass head for practice (with headphones) or maybe the studio, what's the point of having it in a live setting?

Maybe you should stick with your big head and big heavy speakers instead of worrying yourself silly .

If you are really curious, there are plenty of tiny speakers to go along with the tiny heads...take a look at the Trace Elliot 2x8 ELF cab. Also plenty of large speakers that are surprisingly light weight. I can easily lift my Greenboy Dually (2x15) up 3 or 4 steps with one hand and I am no young punk . Maybe I should get a tiny head to go with it .

 

[madbass6]

Get a light cab too! Lots to choose from.

Yeah like a mesa boogie power house 410s..lol.

 

[briandavismurph]

I am aware of the trend toward tiny, lightweight bass heads. That's all well and good, but what's the point if most speaker cabinets are just as large and heavy as they've always been. I am genuinely perplexed. Other than perhaps using a tiny bass head for practice (with headphones) or maybe the studio, what's the point of having it in a live setting?

I park cabs at different rehearsal locations so I just show up with my GK MB500, and my bass and rock

 

[Wasnex]

I want O/D from the amp, not a pedal.
I own one pedal, out of functionality, DigiTech Drop.

In line with the topic, tiny amps. I think it's kind of strange to get a tiny amp & then plug pedals into it. Just get a bigger amp with the functionality you need.

Some of my amps produce really good OD, but the it's not possible to really change the nature of their OD very much other than the amount of saturation.

IMHO pedals are probably a better approach as they are relatively cheap so you can get a variety of OD sounds without breaking the bank. Also pedals allow you to build a custom signal path that allows you more control over the sound. Parallel processing with blend, pre/post EQ, compression, pre/post modulation, etc. In contrast, the hierarchy of most amps is fixed.

 

[Killed_by_Death]

Yes, I know some of you guys love pedals. I don't. I have the one almost out of necessity for playing drop-tuned songs.
I prefer having an amp with the o/d that I like the sound of.
That means I'm picky about buying an amp.

 

[buldog5151bass]

Yah, but your a gigging pro so no fair. This thread is for the TB bedroom surfers LOL.

Sir, you must have me confused with a real bass player...