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Tiny VT Alternative?

#61
I got rid of the tone hammer... Think I'll be going for a Xotic BB preamp plus an X-blender set up for mild overdrive and I'll just use my granny puker for crazy octave effects + extreme overdrive.

And yeah, Faith No More basstones kick ass.
I lost track of my friends' whereabouts during "the gentle art" live. The whole festival turned into one huge mospit :').
 
#63
behndy said:
yeah. kinda the pick tone with out having to learn to play with a pick?

just spent some quality time with the Dirty Little Secret and i'm digging it a lot. only used it with my small, play around setup, but it does at a nice little something. dunno if this is the OD i want to stay with, but it's definitely in the right direction of what i was thinking of.

gonna be able to get loud with it Friday, and i'll PULL OUT THE BIG board and PLAY WITH IT in a little bit.

you satisfied you little degenerates?

lovable, lovable degenerates?
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So what happened to the DLS?

I was hoping for some kind of review and clips.

I feel so let down and taken for granted...

Matt.
 
#65
matt davies said:
So what happened to the DLS?

I was hoping for some kind of review and clips.

I feel so let down and taken for granted...

Matt.
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lol. i liked it ok. it was nicer at low volumes, but when playing loud enough to be with drums there was a noticeable loss of lows. only kept it for one practice.

the BB Preamp is the nicest, closest to what i'm looking for that i tried so far. it's weird tho. i can't get it to to get dirty with out changing the color of my tone a little. and the knobs were a little finicky for me. lol... NOT as bad as a VT, but a little bump does go a long way with it.

my Rusty Boxxxy should be here tomorrow i think. i believe....... that'll be the bidness. BIDNESS.
 
#66
For live use, I've been pretty pleased with the Fishman ProBass DI. Graphic EQ, compressor (1-knob), sub enhance, and pre/post and ground lift switches. I'll be running my new VT Bass into it, as I find it a little too clean (sterile) for my tastes.
 
#67
behndy said:
lol. i liked it ok. it was nicer at low volumes, but when playing loud enough to be with drums there was a noticeable loss of lows. only kept it for one practice.

the BB Preamp is the nicest, closest to what i'm looking for that i tried so far. it's weird tho. i can't get it to to get dirty with out changing the color of my tone a little. and the knobs were a little finicky for me. lol... NOT as bad as a VT, but a little bump does go a long way with it.

my Rusty Boxxxy should be here tomorrow i think. i believe....... that'll be the bidness. BIDNESS.
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Hmm.

I'll stave off my DLS disappointment by looking forward to the promised Rusty Box action.

:D

Matt.
 
#71
MingerMunger -

i just got that camera, and the mic sounds decent on my speakers. let me know if you want a di to laptop and i'll try to figure out how to sync video and audio. which, i'm probably going to try to pick up a decent mic soon sooooooo..... gonna have to learn that eventually anyways.
 
#73
behndy said:
MingerMunger -

i just got that camera, and the mic sounds decent on my speakers. let me know if you want a di to laptop and i'll try to figure out how to sync video and audio. which, i'm probably going to try to pick up a decent mic soon sooooooo..... gonna have to learn that eventually anyways.
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Thanks for that. It was funny when you said "it does get clean", and then it sounded pretty durn dirty to me. Then I read the comment about mic clipping and I understood. If you want to work on the DI thing that would be cool but I did get the idea.

How boosty is the boost switch? I find it funny that you can't adjust for it at all. Do you find it useful?

I'm super torn between this and the Tone Hammer now. I'll probably go with which ever I find a sweet deal on first, although a new Rusty Box is already in the used TH price range...
 
#75
Eric! said:
Why don't you use the main out?
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i WOULD, but the manual and the T(porn)ronographic guys say that the Main is the balanced out to go to DI and the Line is to go to ze power amps. i don't want different gain/volume mixes to the FOH and my rig, so i'm running it at 100% volume and adjusting the gain to that so that i have the same signals going out both. i need this as the DI to FOH gigs too.

Mingus Addict said:
Thanks for that. It was funny when you said "it does get clean", and then it sounded pretty durn dirty to me. Then I read the comment about mic clipping and I understood. If you want to work on the DI thing that would be cool but I did get the idea.
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yeah. i have a show tonight, but either afterwards or tomorrow i can get some just audio stuff up, depending on how burnt i am afterwards.

Mingus Addict said:
How boosty is the boost switch? I find it funny that you can't adjust for it at all. Do you find it useful?
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i'm with you. it is VERY boosty. it'd be cool if they had a trim pot inside that let you adjust the overall boost. from emails the T-ronO guys said that you can adjust it so it's just a gain boost when i asked if you can use it just to get a mite dirtier, but i can't get that to work. it DOES boost the gain, but it makes it overall noticeably louder, so for me that isn't really helpful.

Mingus Addict said:
I'm super torn between this and the Tone Hammer now. I'll probably go with which ever I find a sweet deal on first, although a new Rusty Box is already in the used TH price range...
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you know, i've heard just not good things about the Tone Hammer's dirt section. that it's kinda useless garbage. i can never find one to play around with, but everybody that i've known that has spent time with that and the better SansAmp stuff would rather go SansAmp. and for me, the only thing appealing about it is the clean/dirty in a box.

i REALLY like the Rusty Boxo. it would be awesome to have it do the job of a mild dirt and an awesome preamp and a DI, but 2 out of 3 is plenty for the size it is.
 
#76
Tone Hammer's dirt is garbage? Hardly. I love it. It's my favorite light to medium override I've tried. I don't use it for all out rage though. The Tone Hammer is the best, most versatile pedal I've owned in any genre. Listen to the sample clips at Aguilar's website. It has great tone.
 
#77
cool. glad you dig it. i'm nowhere NEAR bashing Aggy's pedals. the TLC is the only comp i've found i like, and i LOVE the Octamizer. the Twin Filter is a neat, quirky little thing too. i can't find one to get some time in on, so i'm just relating other people i've talked to's impressions. what i hear a lot is that the distortion channel gets too loud when activated and most people don't like the way the OD sounds.

what kind of tones do you use the OD channel for on your Tone Hammer? light grit? do you find that it boosts it into way too loud compared to clean territory?

thanks!
 
#78
behndy said:
cool. glad you dig it. i'm nowhere NEAR bashing Aggy's pedals. the TLC is the only comp i've found i like, and i LOVE the Octamizer. the Twin Filter is a neat, quirky little thing too. i can't find one to get some time in on, so i'm just relating other people i've talked to's impressions. what i hear a lot is that the distortion channel gets too loud when activated and most people don't like the way the OD sounds.

what kind of tones do you use the OD channel for on your Tone Hammer? light grit? do you find that it boosts it into way too loud compared to clean territory?

thanks!
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I use it for light grit or vintage type tones on the AGS. With the AGS off, it's just a powerful EQ pedal. Can be modern or flat sounding

I never try to get the AGS volume to match the clean volume. It isn't designed to do that. I know some around here have griped about that, but I think it's fine. It's no different than a Sansamp which also won't let you do this. No one is bashing Tech21 for that. I set he TH up based on the type of music I'm playing, and forget it. Vintage, B-15, overdrive, grit, clean, scooped, whatever. It does things that no other preamp/DI out there can do IMHO.

I think the flexibility of the AGS makes people want to use it like a second channel. That would be cool I guess. but not being able to do it doesn't make the pedal worthless as some have said.
 
#79
again, i'm glad you love it, and it's freaking AWESOME that there are so many options for bassists out there right now. but i can see the gripe about the extra loud extra channel being an issue. for me, that would make it sorta useless. i would want the second channel to be an easy to integrate part of my setup, and i like to keep pretty much at unity across my board.

which SansAmp are you talking about? the only ones i've used with multiple channels work more as save spots. the PBDI and the VT Deluxe let you adjust the gain/output/volume structure of each spot independent of each other. so, if i didn't hate the way their dirt sounded, that would actually fit how i want to use it pretty dayum well.

Aggy DOES make some crazy good gear. love most of their pedals, and dry hump my GS112's nightly and my GS212 after every show.
 
#80
The VT Deluxe is a multiple channel di. I'm talking about a BDDI or a PDDI. There is no clean and dirty setting you can switch between which has the pedal active on both. You set it up for the tone you want, and then you turn it on or off. The Tone Hammer works the same way. Sure you can set the active level to match the bypassed level. The TH is the same. Neither are two channel pedals.
 

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