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Tired of Rock ?

if someone is bored playing the blues that doesn't mean they are boring, maybe they just don't like playing the blues. that really makes no sense. also if the only standards we use are what other more popular and well known players are doing for ourselves, we would all be playing top 40.

i need a busier bassline to play or i get bored, but i wouldn't think of myself as boring because of this.


also if jimmi was alive today i dont think the grey hair would prevent him from being a rocker.

people really need to look at what they think instead of what others do or they will probably be lacking in artistic integrity.
 
At North Texas, Lynn Seaton and a group of us were discussing "Girl From Ipanema" and one kid said it was a weak song, because everyone plays it. Lynn said something that applies here as well. "If it's boring, you should be looking at your playing - great musicians have been drawn to that tune (or the blues) for years - and have made GREAT music with it."

If you're bored playing blues, chances are you're boring playing the blues.


No,that's not true at all. I can tolerate playing it. (More so than listening to it in most cases). But there are more interesting things to play.
 
Sick of rock..classic rock..YES! a few years ago so much I went to country covers and country originals..still did Mustang Sally thou :hmm:

Today I am in an original Americana, folk rock band and love it.We do a few covers but twist em up allot.
 
i never was really into it in the first place.

thats not to say i dont love hendrix, various psychedelic bands from the 60s like magic mixure and the move and all that, but rock gigs were always my least favorite...

i'm totally satisfied playing jazz, classical, and hiphop, as my main three gigs.
 
mainstream rock has pretty much, well, died over the past few decades. Any rock bands anymore are just copying stuff that has been done 40 years ago. There is still progress being made in the extreme metal subgenres, but most people aren't into that.

mainstream pop has been stagnating, too, with most of the modern stuff identical to tunes put out in the 90's.

It seems to me that the only poplular genre of music that is still unfolding unique new ideas is electronic stuff. Artists like Hybrid are certainly pushing musical frontiers forward. Dubstep is also a new idea, even if it really isn't all that complex. The problem here (for us) is that these genres almost never utilize anything other than synths and drum machines. If you can't play keyboards or arrange midi proficiently, you're SOL.
 
It seems to me that the only poplular genre of music that is still unfolding unique new ideas is electronic stuff. Artists like Hybrid are certainly pushing musical frontiers forward. Dubstep is also a new idea, even if it really isn't all that complex. The problem here (for us) is that these genres almost never utilize anything other than synths and drum machines. If you can't play keyboards or arrange midi proficiently, you're SOL.[/QUOTE]

Thats why I wanted to do "Electronic" music with live bass guitar & drums...we use samples for all the keyboards, horns, strings, etc. (and lasers)


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Rock is less about musicianship and more about fun/show.
I think generally as someone wishes to expand musically, they move on from straight ahead rock. Not always true but I think it's mostly true. It is generally a very simple and narrow genre in terms of form, harmony, melody, rhythms...

That doesn't mean you still can't have fun with it, like it, or play it. It's just not the most intricate music, especially as a bass player. Me, if I didn't ever play straight ahead rock again, I would be just fine with that. Also blues bores me to death.
 
It really depends on what kind of rock we're talking about. I find a lot of jazz boring -- walking over changes endlessly. Bah. Rock provides a greater landscape for orchestrating a part...IF, the music allows. I'd imagine a set of Neil Young, Tom Petty, Lynyrd Skynard and ZZ Top would bore me to death.

It's all about the arrangements. Hell, I did an album of old junk surf tunes, but I arranged them so they went in more interesting places and voiced the bass so that it became a bigger part of the soundscape. But that's an original project. Laying down a basic part to a basic tune is fine -- just not for me at this point in my career.
 
I've recently been facing this issue. The band I'm in is definitely rock influenced, particularly where the drums are concerned. But we started out all wanting to experiment with time signature, repetition, and number of parts. basically "math rock". Now the drummer and the guitarist, want to do more pop oriented rock, which leaves little room to do anything thang more that chug on the root note. Its pretty depressing, and personally, yeah I am sick of rock music
 
I'm sick of Rock too. I recently acquired a bunch of new gear and decided to actively start looking for another band to jam with. I'm currently doing some old school thrash with some buddies that shred. But I wanted to venture out a little and do something a little more mainstream and expand my horizons a little.
I've branched out a lot since I made the switch from guitar to bass a few years ago.

I had one audition with a local alternative rock cover band with a female vocalist. I learned 5 songs they covered in a couple of days and went in. I've never been more bored in my life. I swear it I could train a monkey to play some of it. It's why I can't stand "Radio Rock", at least that's what I call it.
I've turned down several offers for people looking for bassists. Not saying I woulda got the gig, but I knew deep down that it's not fast and technical enough to make me feel challenged.

It's one of the reasons I got into metal years ago. Because I loved how difficult some of the riffs were and how much it thrashed.
I've opened up a lot more and enjoy a funky type of sound like RHCP, but I'll always want to play technical metal live. To me it's not about being successful, it's more about pulling off difficult songs live and earning the respect of the audience members who come away from a show saying "Jesus Christ, those MF'rs write some crazy sh*t!"
 
Anyone else so incredibly sick and tired of playing Rock music, or even worse, Blues ?

I am past "marketable age" (I am ~40) and now only play in Instrumental Jazz, JazzRock, and Experimental bands --- I have never enjoyed playing music more than I do now, where I get to be creative.

Its a real problem in my city of Toronto. I tried for 5 years and just lately I've found a very good band that doesn't care I'm not 20. I think that younger musicians will finally get the idea that it takes time to build a band and have money to do things like tour or even play on a regular basis. I posted an ad as fill in bassist and really all I want is to play some shows and get better at playing music I enjoy, not what someone else dictates my age has to play. I truly appreciate the time and effort some Classic rock bands put into what they do its just does not do anything for me. I'm hoping to get good at playing in a band and stage time and when I hit the 55 age range then I will spend more time recording.
 
I guess If you feel you've mastered it all, and there's no better rock bassist, then you can be bored. I learn something from any song I've ever played. I would guess jazz cats could say the same things as you about Autumn Leaves.

The great thing about jazz is that it invites interpretation and improvisation.

I think people get bored playing rock because, typically, they learn one way how to play the song (and often note for note from recordings, tab, etc) and never play it any other way....
 
I would just have to say that for me, there's NOTHING like the sound of a great rock band when they're ON; covers, originals, it doesn't matter. There's just something about the POWER of rock and roll, good, honest, rock and roll. Listen to the Who, Live at Leeds, and tell me if you don't agree.

For sure, if you're not into it, it will show and everyone can hear it. And for me, I find there's always something I can do better in regards to how I play rock and roll; get tighter with the groove, find some tastier fills, etc. I have not mastered it, never will.
 

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