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Told Not to Use a Pick in a Store?

i start working in a music store in '73 and we allowed everyone to play any guitar or bass in our inventory. later, i opened my own shop from '85-'05. i didn't mind if someone used a pic on a brand new one as long as their playing style wasn't destructive. believe me, i can understand a shop not wanting 'some' people to use a pick on one. i've had people play them with a pick that had a spastic, jerky, random-splattering picking style that scratched the hell out of the pickguard and the body's finish before i had had a chance to take it away from them, and after the damage was done i didn't care if they complained about it or not.
 
Again we're making assumptions. The guy isn't dressed right, the guy is abusing the instrument, the guy doesn't look like he has any money... None of those things were part of the OP. I'm thinking about this question as if it were ME in the store, not some homeless person who treats guitars like Pete Townsend.

If you look like a spaz who's going to wreck something, be prepared for the treatment, mr assume.
 
What I've learned from this thread.

Some folks are very quick to assume that a sales person who says "don't play that with a pick" is obviously doing so for excellent reasons like a) the player is being abusive or b) the player is putting wear on a high end instrument he obviously can't afford to buy, etc.

Some other folks here take the question at face value and ask ourselves what we would do if told not to play a bass with a pick in a music store.

I'm the latter.
 
If you don't like a stores policy just walk out and find one were your comfortable.

Amen to that. That's what I'm saying.

As to purposely damaging someone elses gear

Where'd that even come from?? Yet another assumption we're making about the store patron. He's not only dressed like a hobo and abusing the instrument, now he's purposely damaging it...
 
The axes belong to the stores, so it's their call how they want to care for their inventory. And I don't blame them after watching how gear gets handled at places like the big chains.
The oddest one I got was 'no slapping', they didn't want any fretboard ends worn or hammer marks on the frets or fingernail nicks in the finish.
You walk into Bass NW with a jacket on and you're asked to take it off before trying any axes, obviously for fear of any zippers or buttons making marks, but people do have to be reminded of that.
 
'no slapping', they didn't want any fretboard ends worn or hammer marks on the frets or fingernail nicks in the finish.

I'd be heading for the door like Lynyrd Skynyrd.

You walk into Bass NW with a jacket on and you're asked to take it off before trying any axes, obviously for fear of any zippers or buttons making marks, but people do have to be reminded of that.

That I certainly understand.
 
and truth be told, when it happened to me, it was one of those guitar stores in a strip mall, with a fair number of guitars lining the wall, but no customers and no activity. it was the kind of place that looked like they didn't get many customers either. all the other times that I have been in (long hair and all but no spikes) the places that were happening (guitar customers, people working and visible in the parts/service, employees, drummers, etc.) when I asked for a pick they were glad to throw me 2 or 3. I think the guitar store with the crickets was thinking ahead about their bankruptcy solvency...
 
Total BS. There's a reason they have floor model instruments and equipment: they're supposed to be tried! And using a pick on a bass is certainly a legitimate way to play it. If I was told not to use a pick, I'd leave and tell him I'm going somewhere where I can actually try out their floor models. Or maybe I'd ask to speak to the manager and give him a piece of my mind. I spend a lot of money in the music store near me and I expect to be treated better than that.


If you are that good of a customer then I'm sure they would never say a word.

There is a store in a mall near me and went there to see what he had on sale. I noticed this bass that had "pickups designed by EMG", I forget the actual brand name, but it looked like something I might buy as a beater bass if it sounded decent. I started to pick it up and he wen't balistic!

He didn't remember, but I've bought a lot of small hardware from him and he didn't know that my whole collection is worth more then the merch in his store. But, his store, his rules. I walked away. He's not bad, and I can understand him wanting his stock to be "new". However, in this case, it was a budget bass and I am sure the price he could charge would be the same after I touched it then before.
 
I was in GC just two days ago needing to listen to some cabs. I grabbed a Soundgear 500 (or similar) and slapped to my heart's content for a good 10 minutes. Nobody said a word. I ended up liking none of the cabs I tried, so I had them order me a GK Neo 212. But how in heck would I know what their inventory sounded like if I couldn't actually play it? Sure, I get that playing it produces wear. But that's the cost of doing business, man. At least it is if you're going to do business with me.
 
If they were that fussy about keeping that instrument pristine it shouldn't be on the floor. If it's there it's meant to be played in a normal, non-abusive way. If they can't sell it before normal wear and tear reduces it beyond "new" that's not my problem. They should eat that cost and pass it on in their markup. Which I am absolutely certain that they do.
 
It is easy to see who's never worked in a music store, or who has never been on the hook for inventory.

A couple of points from someone who has been on both sides of the counter for a lot years. First off - the instruments on the wall are not "demo" instruments unless you're talking very low end stuff. For instance, if you play the cheapest bass in the store and say, "I want one" they may (*may*) go to the back and bring out the new triangular box for you. Or you might take home the one you played. I recently bought a lower-end Goodtime banjo package for my son and that was the case - there was a demo that could be played and if you wanted one they'd go get you a new one in a box. Which they did. And I pulled that one out to play it first to make sure it was as good or better than the "demo."

But for anything beyond that the bass on the wall is there to be sold, not to exist as a "demo." Yes, you can generally play it. And back in the day I remember going to GC and playing half a dozen strats (some being brought from the back) to try and find a good one. Of course I was respectful of the gear and the salesguy's time, and was serious about buying one...and I did (actually the 13th one I tried). You don't have a dedicated "demo" model unless you're moving a lot of product.

No way I'd play one off the wall, like it, then ask for a "new one" from the back and not play that one as well. And if the first one (the "demo" one) was better, I'd take that one.

Cars/motorcycles are somewhat similar. At most car dealers you can drive *any* car on the lot if you're serious. They may have a demo car, or they might not. Actually in my experience motorcycle dealers are more likely to have a demo model that they then sell after some number of miles (determined by the manufacturer and then priced accordingly). I've been to car dealerships that didn't have a specified demo of each model. Whatever was on the lot was fair game. But it is up to the salesperson to figure out how they want to apply the "rules."
 
This is absolutely no different than going to a car dealership and being told not to actually drive the car, as it reduces its value.

No, that would be like doing a burnout in the dealerships' car, and you will probably be asked to stop or the salesman drive it back.
I worked at dealers for years.

You assume small stores have some magical back room full of everything that is out on the sales floor. FALSE! While the big GC or Sam Ash do, the small stores usually carry only one of each of what you see on the floor.
 
I was in GC just two days ago needing to listen to some cabs. I grabbed a Soundgear 500 (or similar) and slapped to my heart's content for a good 10 minutes. Nobody said a word. I ended up liking none of the cabs I tried, so I had them order me a GK Neo 212. But how in heck would I know what their inventory sounded like if I couldn't actually play it? Sure, I get that playing it produces wear. But that's the cost of doing business, man. At least it is if you're going to do business with me.

And you have no idea how those cabs sound with your rig. You just wasted time wanking away for no real reason - and you didn't buy anything. :rolleyes: