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Tone Hammer DI appreciation thread

#201
pisces_bass said:
You have a couple of classic preamps there. What happens if you run them together?
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I tried using the VT Bass DI and the Tone Hammer together. I wasn't liking the VT as a preamp and thought maybe I could use it as a drive pedal running in to the Tone Hammer. I'm not sure what I was expecting with this experiment, but it wasn't pretty. They didn't play well together at all.
 
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#202
eric_kiser said:
I tried using the VT Bass DI and the Tone Hammer together. I wasn't liking the VT as a preamp and thought maybe I could use it as a drive pedal running in to the Tone Hammer. I'm not sure what I was expecting with this experiment, but it wasn't pretty. They didn't play well together at all.
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Given the original design intent of the two boxes I would suspect that a THDI into a SansAmp VTDI would likely work better. However, IME it's not unusual for preamps especially those that are heavily voiced to either be too much of a good thing that doesn't work or just an incompatible mess.
 
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#203
I asked about stacking the pedals because I recently tried running my SH-1 Sansamp into my THDI. I really like the THDI sound in my IEM’s. For 75% of the songs I leave the SH-1 off and use it as a mute/tuner. But it works well as a clean boost (CH1) and high gain distortion (CH2) for the tunes that need it.
 
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#206
Stranger Danger said:
Anyone know anything about battery drain? I’ve emailed Korguilar and no response
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Based on the published 7mA current draw (from the manual), and assuming a typical 9 volt battery capacity of around 400-600 mAh (lithium batteries advertise double that), I would say you are very safe counting on 50-75 hours on a fresh set of alkaline batteries. You could obviously do much better than that and can work the math based on the battery you use and the 7mA power requirement. IME these analog pedals are much more battery friendly in the power draw department than the digital ones.
 
#207
Al Kraft said:
Based on the published 7mA current draw (from the manual), and assuming a typical 9 volt battery capacity of around 400-600 mAh (lithium batteries advertise double that), I would say you are very safe counting on 50-75 hours on a fresh set of alkaline batteries. You could obviously do much better than that and can work the math based on the battery you use and the 7mA power requirement. IME these analog pedals are much more battery friendly in the power draw department than the digital ones.
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Thank you. But I was referring to my earlier question regarding the order in which the power draw works. If you have the external power supply connected, will it drain the batteries at all if you leave it plugged in. Same question for phantom power. If you have all three, in which order does it go?
 
#208
Stranger Danger said:
Thank you. But I was referring to my earlier question regarding the order in which the power draw works. If you have the external power supply connected, will it drain the batteries at all if you leave it plugged in. Same question for phantom power. If you have all three, in which order does it go?
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Take a look at post 65 in this thread by @hennessybass...it has all your answers as reported by Aguilar in 2021.
 
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#210
hennessybass said:
FYI - direct from Aguilar - about phantom power / power supply:

If you had the power supply and phantom power connected, the power supply would take precedence and power the pedal, not phantom power.
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Here is the current version from Korguilar:

“Ultimately, we feel it is best to only keep batteries in the unit while you are actively or regularly using it on battery power. Whether or not the pedal draws power from installed batteries is determined by a combination of connections to its main Input and 18V DC In jacks at the time.

A connection to the pedal's Input jack will switch on its power if it is actively receiving power at the time. If there are batteries installed in the pedal while a cable is connected to its main input, the only occasion the pedal will disconnect batteries from the circuit and not draw power from them is if there is a connection to its 18V DC In jack at the time. Whether the installed batteries are connected or disconnected from the circuit at the time is dependent on whether there is a physical connection to the pedal's 18V DC In jack at the time - not based on whether it detects incoming voltage from that jack or the XLR. Thus, during periods of non-usage, if you leave a cable connected to the pedal's main Input jack, it will remain powered of if you have batteries installed in it and nothing is connected to its 18V DC In jack. So, in those circumstances, remember to disconnect the cable to the pedal's main Input jack when you are done using it for the time being. On the other hand, if you left a cable connected to the pedal's main Input while something remains physically connected to the pedal's 18V DC In jack (regardless of whether or not the connected power supply is powered off or disconnected at the other end), the batteries in the pedal are disconnected from the circuit so the pedal will not draw power from the installed batteries during that time.

When using the pedal's XLR DI output, there is nothing specific to the pedal's XLR output connection that will disconnect installed batteries from the circuit. So, if you are using the pedal's XLR DI out connection, it will draw power from installed batteries as long as there's a cable connected to its main Input jack and no connection to its 18V DC In jack at the time. As mentioned above, battery consumption is controlled by specific physical connections, not detected incoming voltage. So, even if phantom power is being supplied from the other end of the XLR connection, the pedal can still draw power from the installed batteries. That being the case, if you will be powering the pedal by phantom power, it is best to remove the batteries.

In addition to power consumption concerns, there is the possibility that batteries can leak. To help avoid damage from possible battery leakage, we advise removing the batteries if the pedal will not be used on battery power (or not used at all) for extended periods.

If you have additional questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

Thank you and best regards,

Korg USA Product Support”
 
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#211
So the order is...
1. 18v. power supply
2. Batteries
3. Phantom power

Seems like it all just depends on how you want to use it.
If it lives on a board, then no batteries and have it hooked up to a PS.

If it's loose, then I think it makes sense to keep batteries in there - as long as you maintain them. That is, don't leave them in there for years and let them leak.

I was using it more as a back-up / emergency plan / DI box... so for me, it made sense to keep batteries in there - but I also could use an extra lead off the PS on my board - if I was using my board - and save the batteries.

Redundancy, ya know.

hennessybass said:
  1. If you have a power supply plugged as well as a battery connected, the power supply will power the pedal, and it will not drain your battery.
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Just decided to throw it on the board
 
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