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Trace Elliot design?

#101
Schlyder said:
wishlist..
I would like to see a 1200 watt GP12 SMX
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Yes, the SMX (=Sound Management with X-Over) and the AH-SMX generation after that (with the proper remote) were the best incarnations... It could be small, even with a full set of features. :D About the same size as the TE-1200...
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This has small improvements over the original SMX, EQ master level (from the older GPs), Valve stage with tone control for making more aggressive sounds possible (and tameable), level control for compressor, compressor pre/post eq switch from TE-1200 (a jolly good idea).
 
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#102
Redbrangus said:
If you don't count Ampeg SVT Micro VR, Ampeg PF-350, Hartke TX-300, Bugera Veyron 1001, TC BQ-500 or TC BH-250, then yeah, the competition at that price point really is limited to just those two competitors. :)
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Sure there are other products at or slightly above or even below that price point, but my main point is still valid.

The ELF is popular because it is every inexpensive, therefore a lot easier to be the best selling product in their history.

Like I said $189 in 1995 dollars.

I keep waiting for someone to come out with a $99 Class D bass head, that would get people excited....

Analogeezer
 
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#108
Analogeezer said:
I keep waiting for someone to come out with a $99 Class D bass head, that would get people excited....
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Here you go. 100W Class D amp, 2 for $16.49!
https://www.amazon.com/HiLetgo-TPA3116-Amplifier-TPA3116DA-Channel/dp/B082F7P184
Of course you also need a power supply, which will cost more than the amplifier. But there are plenty of laptop and strip LED power bricks putting out 20-24V at the required current for under $20.

(TI sells a whole line of Class D amplifier chips, some of which can push >250W. Given that the ELF manual warns that it runs in bridged mode, it would surprise me if the ELF did NOT use one of them, or a similar chip from another manufacturer.)

It would be possible to make a bass amp head that sells for $99 with a TPA3116D2, and it could be even smaller than an ELF. But there are two questions:
First, does anyone need a 100W bass head? Practice volume is lower, gig volume is usually higher.
Second, with inflation roaring away, it's not clear that one can maintain that price point for very long, at which point the magic of "two digit price" goes away.
 
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#111
spatters said:
Here you go. 100W Class D amp, 2 for $16.49!
https://www.amazon.com/HiLetgo-TPA3116-Amplifier-TPA3116DA-Channel/dp/B082F7P184
Of course you also need a power supply, which will cost more than the amplifier. But there are plenty of laptop and strip LED power bricks putting out 20-24V at the required current for under $20.

(TI sells a whole line of Class D amplifier chips, some of which can push >250W. Given that the ELF manual warns that it runs in bridged mode, it would surprise me if the ELF did NOT use one of them, or a similar chip from another manufacturer.)

It would be possible to make a bass amp head that sells for $99 with a TPA3116D2, and it could be even smaller than an ELF. But there are two questions:
First, does anyone need a 100W bass head? Practice volume is lower, gig volume is usually higher.
Second, with inflation roaring away, it's not clear that one can maintain that price point for very long, at which point the magic of "two digit price" goes away.
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Guitar Sound Systems makes a 100w amp for under $200.
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Even has 2 outputs.

You're welcome!
 
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#116
The TE-1200 looks like an awesome amp, but at $1k it really seems like it should be stable below 4 ohms. I have no need for anywhere near that kind of power, but if I ever do need it, then there is a pretty good chance that I'm going to be using a stack that is less than 4 Ohms.
 
#117
bassically_eli said:
The TE-1200 looks like an awesome amp, but at $1k it really seems like it should be stable below 4 ohms. I have no need for anywhere near that kind of power, but if I ever do need it, then there is a pretty good chance that I'm going to be using a stack that is less than 4 Ohms.
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The Invalid Link Removed says it's "capable of driving up to FOUR Trace Pro cabinets per unit". We haven't seen the 2x12, so either that's a 16 ohm cabinet, or there's a mistake somewhere in their specs. It's unlikely a mistake in the amp's minimum load though as there is a 4 ohm limit printed on the photos of the unit, which is a shame.
 
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#118
CHYC said:
The Invalid Link Removed says it's "capable of driving up to FOUR Trace Pro cabinets per unit". We haven't seen the 2x12, so either that's a 16 ohm cabinet, or there's a mistake somewhere in their specs. It's unlikely a mistake in the amp's minimum load though as there is a 4 ohm limit printed on the photos of the unit, which is a shame.
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Yea, I was going off of the photo. The Quilter Bass Block says "800W/4 OHMS" on the back (so it does not actually say 'min'), but IIRC, Quilter actually says it's okay to use it below 4 Ohms. The caveat being that if driven hard, it might go into protect mode. The TE clearly says "min" though, so it'd unwise to push that.
 
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